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Title: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 18, 2019, 12:11:02 PM
I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will feel the need to replace their wonderful and trustfull present arranger keyboard for the latest 
 SX900. What should be the pros and cons??
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: DrakeM on August 18, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
I think maybe if you are into Electronic dance music (EDM) you would go for the SX900.

I am still very happy with my S950 purchase and my plan was to keep it until at least 2022 (if it last that long) and then move up. I am going through the SX900 styles now and add them to my Yamaha style collection (you can't have to many pro styles).

That will also give Yamaha some time to fix any issues that may start to happen to the new touch screen idea. Putting in a touch screen might be cheaper for Yamaha but buttons I think are more reliable in the long run.

Regards
Drake
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 18, 2019, 02:00:37 PM
Hi :

Maybe most present T4 and T5 owners will wait for the Genos2.
Perhaps only a few Tyros owners will order the SX900 ...

But ... why should one kill a winning horse ?

IMHO a much better sound quality might be the main reason why people are upgrading.

Other features ( like e.g. a touch screen, a joystick etc. ) are less important for most musicians, I guess.

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: pmedina on August 18, 2019, 02:24:04 PM
Hi beykock, as Drake, I am a S950 owner and agree with his position. By the way Drake, how can I get the SX900 styles?
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: EileenL on August 18, 2019, 03:11:43 PM
It is always a personal choice when purchasing keyboards but technology moves on in operation and sound quality plus new features. As for the touch screen there have not been any problems with Genos
and They will use the same type I am sure for the S900.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Pino on August 18, 2019, 03:13:47 PM
Hi :


IMHO a much better sound quality might be the main reason why people are upgrading.

Babette

Babette, you are spot on,
But I haven’t heard nothing new from the videos
Changing the color and some other features mean nothing to me
I already have everything I need to make excellent music
My audience already can’t believe what they hear from my keyboard
Yamaha styles are really excellent, I pick and chose the best voices
The rest is down to my playing, I want to be my best everytime I play.
Pino
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Toril S on August 18, 2019, 03:38:38 PM
No, I will not upgrade. I am still very happy with my S975 and my Tyros 5😀
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: DrakeM on August 18, 2019, 03:44:45 PM
Hi pmedina

You got mail. ;D
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 18, 2019, 04:29:28 PM
I am waiting for their time to arrive in Brazil. For sure, the price will be raised as soon as they arrive.
I think by mid-June 2020 it will have a better price. That's the time I'll save some money, and I put my s975 on the wheel.

Telmo:
Pra gente aqui do Brasil tudo é caro. O Presidente estava falando em diminuir os impostos em cima dos instrumentos musicais, mas isso pode demorar ou nem acontecer.
O Genos que custa em média R$ 15 mil na Europa, pra gente é R$ 30 mil. Acho que sx900 vai chegar, pra gente, com o preço que é praticado no Genos fora.
Aqui no Brasil a gente ganha pouco e as coisas são os olhos da cara. :(

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 18, 2019, 04:47:58 PM
Quote
Pra gente aqui do Brasil tudo é caro. O Presidente estava falando em diminuir os impostos em cima dos instrumentos musicais, mas isso pode demorar ou nem acontecer.
O Genos que custa em média R$ 15 mil na Europa, pra gente é R$ 30 mil. Acho que sx900 vai chegar, pra gente, com o preço que é praticado no Genos fora.
Aqui no Brasil a gente ganha pouco e as coisas são os olhos da cara. :(
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM (https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM)
Concordo plenamente Onildo. Infelizmente no Brasil os preços de teclados é um absurdo. E olha que já tem loja postando o anúncio de venda no Mercado Livre do SX900, preçinho salgado de $18.000.

Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 18, 2019, 05:18:24 PM
Hi Enildo :

It is good to hear your voice again ! :)

I personally believe the S975 is a very nice and pro arranger keyboard.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind the SX900 looks to be a nice successor.   

Some questions though :

A. From what you/we have heard and seen ( video demo's and specs ), do you believe the sound quality of the SX900 is ( much ) better than the
    sound quality of your S975 ?

B. Are the extra new SX900 features important enough to upgrade ?

C. Is it too early to make a decission now and do you prefer to see, to hear, to touch and to play the keyboard first ?

D. What about the S975 trade-in price in your country ? The S975 is almost a brand new instrument ( 2018 ).

Thank you for your reply.

Best wishes, Babette

 
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 18, 2019, 05:32:40 PM
Quote
do you believe the sound quality of the SX900 is ( much ) better than the
    sound quality of your S975 ?
Babette, remember what counts for the Yamaha Company is the selling point. If you think back a few years ago, the story repeats itself. There are, no doubt a few improvements, but not a lot. For instance, if you check the official demos comparing the sound quality of Tyros 2 to Tyros 3, Tyros 4 and Tyros 5, you  might hear some litlle improvement in sound quality, and the same goes from the S950, S970, and S975. For the ones who wish to upgrade, they will justifying saying there is a considerably improvement in sound quality, whereas others  who won't will say there isn't much difference in sound quality.
The sound quality is not huge or substantial, but Yamaha needs to sell their new baby, and marketing is the key to impress the mass.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: EileenL on August 18, 2019, 05:46:10 PM
I noticed the difference in sound quality as soon as I played my Genos. Remember listening to things on You Tube is not the same as listening to the actual instrument.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: DerekA on August 18, 2019, 06:04:42 PM
As a T5 owner, there are some features on the SX900 that I would like, but I know I would miss the 76 key FSX keybed.

I am interested to hear one in person though, I think it's likely to be mid October before one arrives in the local shop.

It's possible I will prefer the sound of the SX, then I will have something to think about.

It's a shame the SX will not have the CFX and C7 samples.

I would like Genos but am just not quite brave enough to spend the money!
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 18, 2019, 08:29:37 PM
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM (https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM)
Concordo plenamente Onildo. Infelizmente no Brasil os preços de teclados é um absurdo. E olha que já tem loja postando o anúncio de venda no Mercado Livre do SX900, preçinho salgado de $18.000.

For God's sake, they're going crazy! Pure speculation!
Who rushes will be bad. I think it will arrive here with the value below 15mil ($ 3750) and then it will be 12mil ($ 3000).

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 18, 2019, 08:34:50 PM
Hi Enildo :

It is good to hear your voice again ! :)

I personally believe the S975 is a very nice and pro arranger keyboard.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind the SX900 looks to be a nice successor.   

Some questions though :

A. From what you/we have heard and seen ( video demo's and specs ), do you believe the sound quality of the SX900 is ( much ) better than the
    sound quality of your S975 ?

B. Are the extra new SX900 features important enough to upgrade ?

C. Is it too early to make a decission now and do you prefer to see, to hear, to touch and to play the keyboard first ?

D. What about the S975 trade-in price in your country ? The S975 is almost a brand new instrument ( 2018 ).

Thank you for your reply.

Best wishes, Babette

I totally agree with you Babette!

I won't sell my soul to the devil to trade for sx900. kkkkkk
In the first months of release is always more expensive, then the value drops to reasonable standards.

Greetings,
Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: J. Larry on August 18, 2019, 09:20:09 PM
Knowing my past behavior, I’d probably trade-up if they changed nothing but the model name, nothing else.  I’ll soon know, once the SX’s begin shipping, because I’ll have a SX 900 sitting right next to the S975----in the same room, both through the same sound system.  If there’s little to no difference, surely I’ll be able to recognize it.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 18, 2019, 09:22:40 PM
I have the impression the prices in your country ( Brazil ) seem to be very high or am I wrong ?

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: mikf on August 18, 2019, 10:24:38 PM
Like all new models some will upgrade from relatively recent models, like T5 but most will not. Then there are people with much older models who may have been considering an upgrade for a while and will think maybe now its time. But like most new arrangers, I imagine a lot of the sales will either be people completely new to arrangers, or moving from very low end, entry level keyboards.
Mike
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: XeeniX on August 18, 2019, 10:49:11 PM
Or different brands Mike ;)

On topic: I'm sticking to my T5. When and IF I upgrade it will either be the Genos 2, a Yamaha CSP or when winning the lottery a CVP ;) Or …… who knows :D the PA4X successor.


regards,
Peter
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: niayinii on August 18, 2019, 11:01:53 PM
I  have T5  but  will get  the sx900  cos  of  new  technology
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Mendel on August 18, 2019, 11:04:17 PM
I have s970 for past few years, im defiantly upgrading to the sx900.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 19, 2019, 12:06:41 AM
I have the impression the prices in your country ( Brasil ) seem to be very high or am I wrong ?

Babette
You are absolutely right. Prices of musical instruments in Brazil is awfully high. It's outrageous. No wonder why the Genos had a very poor sell here in Brazil. Very few can afford it.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Danny1972 on August 19, 2019, 12:41:38 AM
I am getting the SX900 to go along side my T4 and not instead of it. I don't think I could ever get rid of my T4, I am attached to it too much but I have been waiting for a more portable version of this keyboard and I think we may finally have it with some nice extras.

Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Joe H on August 19, 2019, 02:47:33 AM
I think maybe if you are into Electronic dance music (EDM) you would go for the SX900...
Regards
Drake

I would respectfully disagree with your assessment.  I like EDM but Yamaha's idea of EDM is way off base.  The best EDM is underground.  Back in the 1990s Yamaha's idea of Techo music was nothing short of bizarre. There are NO styles on any of Yamaha's arrangers that represent true (non commercial) EDM.  It's like they are from another planet.

My audition of the SX900 styles is... same ole same ole stuff... just remixed a little and then recycled. The remix of the DJ styes is rather poor, and they are Pop music not EDM.

My personal interest in the SX900 is more expansion memory, the joy-stick and (hopefully) better implementation of LIVE CONTROL, especially what gets saved in registrations.  I'm waiting for a report from Frank at Audioworks on what he finds.  A better quality key-bed would be welcomed as well. I have mixed feelings about the touch screen. There a buttons, but those are Style and Voice Category buttons... which I have little use for since I don't really play the Preset styles much; and since I bought expansion pack Voices, the Motif sound module and VL, Analog and FM plug-in cards I don't play the Preset Voice much either (just a few).

Joe H
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 19, 2019, 05:23:31 AM
The SX900 ... a Tyros5 " upgrade " ?
Might be a bridge too far, I guess.😻

Babette

Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Pino on August 19, 2019, 05:46:16 AM
We have a saying

"It’s an old sheep in lambs clothing" 🐏

Bit like the lady I had a date with last night
I left early and went home to mother  😥

Pino
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 19, 2019, 06:17:06 AM
I am disappointed there are almost no " new " SX900 styles.
🐷
A face lift, a higher price but the sound quality seems not so much better than the sound quality of the S970/S975.

The SX900 looks nice, has some interesting additional pc features but ... musicians and audience are only interested in the sound and the music performance, IMHO.

Babette

Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Pino on August 19, 2019, 06:47:35 AM
PSR needed more expansion memory for sure
But
It’s expensive memory

I paid $1,781 for more memory for my S950 (S975)

My audience wouldn’t know if I’m playing an S910, S950 or a S975
They all sound just about the same
I can make an audio recording of a song on each keyboard and join the 3 audio pieces together
You really wouldn’t know the difference

Yamaha styles have sounded good for the past 10+ years

Pino
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 19, 2019, 10:18:57 AM
If you are happy with your present keyboards and they offer you and your audience what is expected, why should you spend extra money, Pino ?

Making music is much more than technology only, I guess.

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: zofman on August 19, 2019, 11:26:21 AM
Quick answer to the topicstarter:

I will never trade in my Tyros 5.
I spend 10 years drewling at youtubevideos and saving money to buy my Tyros and i really do not care if there is a better keyboard in store.
Still learning to controle the beast and very happy with it.

Jan
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 19, 2019, 11:46:08 AM
Hi Jan :

For me the Tyros5 is a real legend too.

It is absolutely my intention to keep it as long as possible.
But " NEVER " ?

It might be possible, who knows, the Genos2, Genos3 etc. are using a new OS, different styles structures, new voices and/or other software applications.

Time will tell.

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: metcam on August 19, 2019, 12:23:19 PM
 My plan was to bay SX-900 as a back-up for my Genos.

 Since I found out that is not possible load on SX-900 mixed external/internal custom voices/drums I will not bay unless Yamaha fix that in next OS update.

SX-900 is great keyboard but all my stuff in Genos (95 %) are created from external samples  mixed with some onboard.

So at this moment I Will wait for Genos2 and maybe look for T5 or T4.... because I need back-up keyboard.


Regards.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 19, 2019, 12:50:00 PM
Hi Metcam :

Very interesting information. Thank you.😁

Are you saying the SX900 cannot be called a
" Genos baby " but  a very interesting and successful S975 successor with some Genos features ?

Are you sure the Tyros4 and/or Tyros5 can do the job you are looking for ?
If not, what other alternative might be acceptable for you ?

Best wishes,
Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: metcam on August 19, 2019, 02:33:52 PM
Hi Babette

For me personally ,for the way I am using Yamaha keyboards the best Back-up for my Genos at this moment

will be another Genos, or Tyros5.

SX-900 in my opinions  will be  a better than Tyros5 if is posible mixing external/onboard samples.


Yes Tyros3 , 4 and 5 can mix onboard/external samples.


Regards
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Flip on August 19, 2019, 03:03:03 PM
Not me....the Tyros 4 is more than I can handle.  Flip  ;)
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: DerekA on August 19, 2019, 03:31:02 PM
Re 'Baby Genos' .... I would sum up SX900 as:

.. S970  overall set of features,
.. S970-ish keybed,
.. Tyros 5 styles and voices,
.. Genos OS, touchscreen, and overall tone.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 19, 2019, 05:02:21 PM
Hi Guys :


After reading all these reactions, I believe I need to test the SX900 and SX700 myself first before I am able to give my personal opinion.

It is my intention to test both new arrangers as soon as they are available ... but ... selling my Tyros5/76 is absolutely out of the question. 

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: metcam on August 19, 2019, 05:56:31 PM
Hi Guys :


After reading all these reactions, I believe I need to test the SX900 and SX700 myself first before I am able to give my personal opinion.

It is my intention to test both new arrangers as soon as they are available ... but ... selling my Tyros5/76 is absolutely out of the question. 

Babette

If you don't use custom voices or if you dont't make your own but use Yamaha packs , Than in my opinion
SX-900 is better than Tyros5.

That is my opinion.


I was ready to bay SX-900 and the only problem with mixing External/onboard samples stopped me.

Regards
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: jerryghr on August 19, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
This would be a "Downgrade" from my T5.

I would miss the - tilt screen, articulation voices, 76 keys, aftertouch, direct power cord vs ac adaptor, ensamble voices, 3 foot pedals vs 2, expansion memory at 2gb.  I use all these features.  Can't live without them.

The Genos is the upgrade, not a PSR.

Regards,

Jerryghr
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Duurduur on August 19, 2019, 06:25:31 PM
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM (https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM)
Concordo plenamente Onildo. Infelizmente no Brasil os preços de teclados é um absurdo. E olha que já tem loja postando o anúncio de venda no Mercado Livre do SX900, preçinho salgado de $18.000.

If I go to this site the price is R$ 10.999,-
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ekurburski on August 19, 2019, 07:01:19 PM
Interesting comments from all.  I'm stuck on a PSR3000 that does more than I can.  I pine for an upgrade to the latest and best like most BUT in the finale analyse if the unit dorsn't dound $2000 better I will continue to fight the older OP. 
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 19, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
I have the impression the prices in your country ( Brazil ) seem to be very high or am I wrong ?

Babette

Very high. The taxes here break us!
Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: erbis on August 19, 2019, 08:14:38 PM
Hi Drake :)
I would also like to wait for the mail ;D
Greetings.
erbis / Ryszard
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 19, 2019, 11:49:12 PM
Very high. The taxes here break us!
Enildo
Onildo, take a look. I can't believe it. This is one of the best Musical Instrument Store in Brazil: TECLACENTER.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 20, 2019, 01:21:41 AM
Onildo, take a look. I can't believe it. This is one of the best Musical Instrument Store in Brazil: TECLACENTER.

What a good news Celmo!
This price is within the world reality! Thanks for sharing, now I'm happier!

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 20, 2019, 02:06:40 AM
I also found a more real price on ML (R$ 10.990):
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-lancamento-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM

I hope the prices stay at this level.

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ton37 on August 23, 2019, 05:53:51 AM
A luxury problem is coming. ;) I have sold the S975 now, as I hardly can play the keyboard for 2 months from now. The trade-in price for the Sx900 was disappointing (€900), so I sold it privately for the same price as I boight it. Now I have my hands free to buy me another keyboard. At first I will listen and inform myself on the new Sx900, as soon as it is in the store. After that I will make a choice: a Sx900 (will cost me €900?? extra) or for less money  a used S975 (there will be a second hand pricedrop). A used Genos is no option for my needs, unless a fantastic upgrade 1.5/2.0 would come. But I don't expect that Yamaha will do that, it would harm the sale of the SX900 and Genos 2. Time will tell and I'm looklng forward to hear and feel and see the SX900 about a few weeks. ;)
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 23, 2019, 06:14:53 AM
Hi Ton :

Congratulations with the sales of your S975.
It looks to be a great deal.WOW !😉

I am looking forward to reading your comments after receipt of your new SX900.
 
Probably you will be one of the first SX900 owners, I guess.

Good luck, Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 23, 2019, 11:03:49 AM
I also found a more real price on ML (R$ 10.990):
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-lancamento-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM

I hope the prices stay at this level.

Enildo

Hello Telmo,

It seems that the "Tecla Center" removed the price of the pre-announcement and the Mercado Livre dealer raised the price from $ 10990 to $ 13990.
Joy of poor lasts a little! ;D ;D ;D

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Toril S on August 23, 2019, 11:31:27 AM
Too bad!
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ton37 on August 23, 2019, 12:04:24 PM
Hi Ton :

Congratulations with the sales of your S975.
It looks to be a great deal.WOW !😉

I am looking forward to reading your comments after receipt of your new SX900.
 
Probably you will be one of the first SX900 owners, I guess.

Good luck, Babette
Mmm.. I don't think so, Babette, because I return from caravanning throught Europe on november 1st. Dealer-info here in Holland says that the SXx00 are on 18/19 september in the shop?? So I guess that there are (many) buyers before me  ;). But I will follow with great interest these posts  ;)
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Danny1972 on August 23, 2019, 12:32:32 PM
I hope to get one the moment it's released, it's on order so hopefully I will hear something when they set a release date.

This will be going along with my T4 & S975. I think I will keep the S975 because I think there will be enough differences to warrant keeping both.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 23, 2019, 12:57:58 PM
Hi :

Ordering, buying a new arranger always gives me an emotional kick. Almost like buying a new car.  :)

It makes me dream, I feel happy and great to become a proud owner of the latest technology ... I can hardly wait.

Just after receipt I am so excited.
Many days and hours I am installing, listening to the newest sounds and testing the new gadgets.

After 3-4 weeks I am used to it and the thrill is gone ... ;)

Babette

Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 23, 2019, 02:06:05 PM
Hi :

Ordering, buying a new arranger always gives me an emotional kick. Almost like buying a new car.  :)

It makes me dream, I feel happy and great to become a proud owner of the latest technology ... I can hardly wait.

Just after receipt I am so excited.
Many days and hours I am installing, listening to the newest sounds and testing the new gadgets.

After 3-4 weeks I am used to it and the thrill is gone ... ;)

Babette

That's how I feel, too, Babette, on a new honeymoon, for about 90 days. kkkkk

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Danny1972 on August 23, 2019, 02:39:44 PM
I totally get the same initial feelings as you both do when I get a new keyboard I get very excited and can't wait.

However I still love my T4 like I did the first day I took it out of the box and still feels fresh to me. I've been happy to experiment with the mid range from the S950 and then changing for each one up with the knowledge that I still have the T4 so that I wouldn't ever miss anything. The SX900 will be a very interesting addition though.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 23, 2019, 03:27:47 PM
Hi Guys :

Glad and funny to hear some other members are sharing my experiences. 😸

Everybody must follow his own heart and personal wish list.
Why not ... if it brings joy and pleasure.🙈

The reason why I have decided not to follow the latest trends is rather simple. It is not a financial issue.

I found out there are so many secrets hidden in my present arranger I do not know yet and never knew they existed or even were possible.

I am learning every day new challenges and new tricks thanks to other members of this forum and my own curiosity.

This learning process made me " love " my arranger and I am not ashamed to say it would hurt to leave it behind.

It might sound silly but :
it feels like my arranger is a real music instrument to me.

Best wishes, Babette










Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 23, 2019, 04:33:10 PM
Hello Telmo,

It seems that the "Tecla Center" removed the price of the pre-announcement and the Mercado Livre dealer raised the price from $ 10990 to $ 13990.
Joy of poor lasts a little! ;D ;D ;D

Enildo
Unfortunately, that's true.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ton37 on August 23, 2019, 04:59:33 PM
I partially agree with what @Babette writes. The 'thrill' stays when I play the keyboard and hear how great styles and voices sounds. Each time again when I study a new song. It is not about me because it is new or has the latest technology, but mainly I expect that it has a somewhat qualitatively better sound from the styles and voices. If there are also some new features that appeal to me, I am very satisfied (to name a few important features for me: Touchscreen, Chord-looper and Style-Reset, subwoofer and especially more RAM). I expect to hear that sound quality when I try out the SX900 and that will further increase my pleasure in playing the keyboard. Please note: all my former keyboards offered a lot of quality and diversity !! But because the Yamaha line was unknown to me, it was a journey of discovery to experience the ins and outs. That's why I kept changing keyboard.  Only for personal reasons do I choose the keyboard that suits me ... ;) ;)
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 23, 2019, 05:34:19 PM
Hi Ton :

As I said before ( see my previous message ): one has to go for the arranger keyboard he/she really likes as long as this choice will bring the player fun, pleasure, satisfaction and joy.

It might be the newest, the most expensive, the lowest in price or a second hand keyboard.
The personal choice is important and needs to be respected, IMHO.
Some players are producing great music quality with low priced arrangers.

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ton37 on August 24, 2019, 08:16:37 AM
........
After 3-4 weeks I am used to it and the thrill is gone ... ;)

Babette
That is right  Babette, but the above sentence trickered me and I want to philosofy about 'how long the enjoyment stays' with  a (new) keyboard  ;) Is it because it is new ... or because it sounds better every time. For me it is the improvement of the soundquality that seduces me to buy a new toy and that ' thrills ' me as long as I play the keyboard  ;)
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 24, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
Hi :

There are other tools to improve the sound quality of a voice.  :)
One does not need to upgrade all the time to get a better voice sound, right ? ;)

See free pc programs made by our great programmers or/and DAWS.

Enjoy your weekend !

Babette
 
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: EileenL on August 24, 2019, 01:09:53 PM
Not all of us use Daws and add on's. We produce out music by just sitting and playing, be it for ourselves or others. Great joy is bought by tweaking these lovely voices to sound even better and to our own taste. Also styles. The interest is held by being creative and playing and sharing our favorite songs.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: billtracy on August 24, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
The reason why I have decided not to follow the latest trends is rather simple. It is not a financial issue.

I found out there are so many secrets hidden in my present arranger I do not know yet and never knew they existed or even were possible.



So true!
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 24, 2019, 03:20:58 PM
You are absolutely right, Eileen.

Upgrading is absolutely not necessary to sit and play, to have fun, joy and/or sharing songs.

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: reya on August 25, 2019, 08:12:21 AM
I currently have a S770, which I am likely to replace by a SX700.

Main reason is the fact that the new SX's apparently are using the same easy MIDI link feature between registration files and scores in sheet music apps that was introduced on Genos.
You simply load a registration file on the keyboard, load the corresponding music sheet in a compatible sheet music app, press a link button in the app. Done!
After that, loading the sheet, will load the registration file and also the other way around, loading the registration file will load the music sheet.
Simply Brilliant !!

Other reasons are the new keybed and the touchscreen.

All above reasons make that Genos and SX700 will operate much in the same way, which is my goal. And I will then have 2 keyboards that are very compatible in the way they operate and as good as do all I want them to do.

I am not a super great fan of the Genos/PSR voices though (a bit thin and cold to my liking), I prefer clavinova (or Ketron) sounds, but since I found (to my ears) little improvement in voice sounds between Tyros and Genos, I think probably they sound as Yamaha wants them to sound. And so I am not expecting massive changes in that area in the next upgrades to come.

Now as a big change in voice sounds would probably be the only real season left for me to upgrade after switching to the SX700, I am not expecting to upgrade ever again, and so will probably happily be using Genos 1 and SX700 for a long time.

Rudy


Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 25, 2019, 08:15:53 AM
Good luck, Rudy !😁

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on August 25, 2019, 10:15:29 AM
I currently have a S770, which I am likely to replace by a SX700.

Main reason is the fact that the new SX's apparently are using the same easy MIDI link feature between registration files and scores in sheet music apps that was introduced on Genos.
You simply load a registration file on the keyboard, load the corresponding music sheet in a compatible sheet music app, press a link button in the app. Done!
After that, loading the sheet, will load the registration file and also the other way around, loading the registration file will load the music sheet.
Simply Brilliant !!

Other reasons are the new keybed and the touchscreen.

All above reasons make that Genos and SX700 will operate much in the same way, which is my goal. And I will then have 2 keyboards that are very compatible in the way they operate and as good as do all I want them to do.

I am not a super great fan of the Genos/PSR voices though (a bit thin and cold to my liking), I prefer clavinova (or Ketron) sounds, but since I found (to my ears) little improvement in voice sounds between Tyros and Genos, I think probably they sound as Yamaha wants them to sound. And so I am not expecting massive changes in that area in the next upgrades to come.

Now as a big change in voice sounds would probably be the only real season left for me to upgrade after switching to the SX700, I am not expecting to upgrade ever again, and so will probably happily be using Genos 1 and SX700 for a long time.

Rudy
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All above reasons make that Genos and SX700 will operate much in the same way, which is my goal. And I will then have 2 keyboards that are very compatible in the way they operate and as good as do all I want them to do.
Regarding compatibility between Genos and the newest SX series, I suppose you will be better off upgrading to the SX900 instead of the SX700 considering the number of Mega voices and Art voices  found in the SX900. The size, weight, the keybed  and visual look of these SX series are practically the same but what they have inside, justify, to me, upgrading to the SX900 if you wish to have the best sound and voices available in a portable keyboard, specially if you want to keep it for a "long time" like you pointed it out.
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 25, 2019, 10:39:28 AM
Hi Telmo :

I am not sure but I believe he owns a Genos.

Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: reya on August 26, 2019, 06:49:19 AM
Regarding compatibility between Genos and the newest SX series, I suppose you will be better off upgrading to the SX900 instead of the SX700 considering the number of Mega voices and Art voices  found in the SX900. The size, weight, the keybed  and visual look of these SX series are practically the same but what they have inside, justify, to me, upgrading to the SX900 if you wish to have the best sound and voices available in a portable keyboard, specially if you want to keep it for a "long time" like you pointed it out.

I 100% agree with you Telmo, and if money were not an issue I would probably go for the SX900,.
But then if money were not an issue, I would probably also go for all new Genos models as well  8)  ;D
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: King Size on August 26, 2019, 03:35:14 PM
Hi Musicians,

I always read here "I love my keyboard". Guys, I like my T5 as a musical instrument. But I can not love a keyboard or a car or whatever plastic or sheet metal part.
Anyway, I do not take my keyboard to bed. I've never even kissed my T5. And I will hug him only to transport.

Siggi
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ton37 on August 26, 2019, 03:42:03 PM
Ohh.. @Siggi, consultate Dr. Phil , he can help you ;D ;D
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Toril S on August 26, 2019, 04:53:43 PM
I tuck my keyboards in every night, and give them a lovung pat on the panel. Hush! I hear them coming for me...😀😀😀 I ordered a cover for my T5 on the internet. All the way from Holland. Crazy? Not a bit! 😀😀
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on August 27, 2019, 11:24:58 AM
Hello everybody!

I noticed that the boot time by pushing the power button improved a lot on the sx900 compared to the s975.
On sx900 it takes about 18 seconds to boot, while on s975 it takes about 28 seconds.
For me a very significant difference!

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: beykock on August 27, 2019, 12:40:38 PM
Hi Enildo :

I honestly believe the SX900 will become a very popular arranger keyboard just like the PSR3000 in the past.

Hopefully the price will not be an obstacle for many potential buyers like S790 and/or S975 owners.
Cross my fingers. 🍀

Best regards, Babette
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: ton37 on August 27, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
It is just a matter of supply and demand. If a lot of a certain model is traded in or the dealer expects a lot of a certain model to be traded in, then you will have to pay (a lot) extra for a new model. Sometimes it is better to sell your keyboard privately. Of course you can wait for some time until the price of the new model has dropped. That certainly pays off if you have nothing to trade in. If you want to trade in your current keyboard, then waiting doesn't make much sense, because the model to be exchanged will also be worth less. When you trade in, you have to focus on what you have to pay extra! Not what the new keyboard costs or what you get for your old keyboard. But with that I don't tell you anything you probably already know ... Happy trading and hunting…. Accordingly to some dealers it seems in Holland the huntingseason starts at  9-9-2019 !! ;)
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: DrakeM on August 27, 2019, 02:21:32 PM
Not all of us use Daws and add on's. We produce out music by just sitting and playing, be it for ourselves or others. Great joy is bought by tweaking these lovely voices to sound even better and to our own taste. Also styles. The interest is held by being creative and playing and sharing our favorite songs.


I agree, you can simply sit at your keyboard and create hundreds of custom styles without any extra software. Each week as I start to work on my next song style, the hard part is deciding what song will present a NEW challenge in creating it. 

As I go through the Yamaha styles listening to the styles looking for a particular pattern, I hear many times something I want to come back to that fits another song perfectly. There are so many treasures tucked away in the styles, you just have to take the time to build a new style around that particular riff or beat pattern.

My S950 is now 7 years old and the newness is still there as I find myself working and re-working on a new style in the wee hours of the night. It’s just like when the keyboard first arrived and I just couldn’t turn it off. I want to try just one more thing or tweak it just a little more.

The SX900 keyboard isn’t a “I wish my keyboard would die” so I could justify a new one. At this stage in the evolution of keyboards and the human ear, they all are unbelievable in what they sound like and produce.

Regards
Drake
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Fred Smith on August 27, 2019, 02:36:42 PM

Main reason is the fact that the new SX's apparently are using the same easy MIDI link feature between registration files and scores in sheet music apps that was introduced on Genos.
You simply load a registration file on the keyboard, load the corresponding music sheet in a compatible sheet music app, press a link button in the app. Done!
After that, loading the sheet, will load the registration file and also the other way around, loading the registration file will load the music sheet.
Simply Brilliant !!


Rudy,

It's not a "midi" link. It's a link without using a midi file.

Your current 770 can do the midi link (what you call "the other way around") -- where the registration, with the appropriate midi file, loads the PDF on your tablet.

Hope this helps,
Fred

Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on October 17, 2019, 10:29:57 PM
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM (https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1291624066-yamaha-psr-sx900-brevemente-aqui-na-brazilmusicstore-_JM)
Concordo plenamente Onildo. Infelizmente no Brasil os preços de teclados é um absurdo. E olha que já tem loja postando o anúncio de venda no Mercado Livre do SX900, preçinho salgado de $18.000.

Hello Telmo!

how much did your sx900 cost and where did you buy it?

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Telmo on October 17, 2019, 11:04:39 PM
Hello Telmo!

how much did your sx900 cost and where did you buy it?

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: Enildo on October 17, 2019, 11:44:20 PM
Congratulations on your new baby Telmo!
Thanks for the info!

Enildo
Title: Re: I wonder if Tyros 4, Tyros 5 and S975 owners will upgrade for the SX900
Post by: blackpool on October 18, 2019, 11:03:39 AM
In the end Yamaha, like all other companies are going to 'upgrade' models naturally. How often have we bought the same car years down the line and there have been improvements in the same model range....it really is a natural transition, with advances in R&D They are hardly going to keep churning out old tech. if better and newer is available and of course it encourages people to up-grade.

As mentioned earlier in this thread and others, this is really a PSR working now in the way that Genos does. hardly a surprise they have merged the ranges 2 into the same OS.
The very same will occur with the 670 ....well past it's sell by, although it was a winner in it's day and is a cracking PSR
the new SX300/500 models due out next.

I think its a big step up and much better than my 970 was in so many ways and smaller than my Genos - so its just great for my needs!

Just cant wait for mine to come back from the service centre !!!

Keith