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Title: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: AudioProCT on August 15, 2018, 06:34:33 PM
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Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: whataguy on August 15, 2018, 08:49:28 PM
What's a "B" Stock Genos?
Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: AudioProCT on August 15, 2018, 09:22:47 PM
“B” stock, from Yamaha can mean, the box was opened, the keyboard was played, then re-boxed, or the keyboard was used for a Yamaha training.

All YAMAHA “B” stock carry Yamaha’s full warranty.

Usually carrying a discounted price
Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on August 16, 2018, 09:15:40 AM
“B” stock, from Yamaha can mean, the box was opened, the keyboard was played, then re-boxed, or the keyboard was used for a Yamaha training........

I assume returned items from customers is labeled 'B stock' as well?
Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: AudioProCT on August 16, 2018, 11:55:35 AM
Yamaha does not accept customer returns, those are only through dealers and must be called used
Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: AlBags on August 16, 2018, 03:23:48 PM

So, this statement by Yamaha (under B Stock) is incorrect then?

 https://usa.yamaha.com/support/faq/audio_visual/2534.html

Al.
Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: AudioProCT on August 16, 2018, 03:26:22 PM
I'll check on the half warranty part, ( never had an issue with warranty with Yamaha )  but everything else is correct.   Not used by a customer, unless the customer received one that had a problem, was sent back fixed and then sent out as a B stock

Used as a customer had it for months and then sent it back?    No, it would have to be with in 30 days
Title: Re: Just received 2 "B" Stock Genos
Post by: andyg on August 16, 2018, 06:29:38 PM
I think the laws regarding what you can or cannot call good is different in the EU than it is in the UK.

'Manufacturer refurbished' is a term often used, but in some cases I suspect 'refurbishment' may mean little more than an inspection, clean if required, reset and repackaging. 'B Grade is sometimes used, though I doubt the full legality, as once something has been sold it can never then be described as 'new', regardless of 'stock' or 'grade'.

I've bought a 'manufacturer refurbished' laptop, lawn mower and a pressure washer that way. Apart from one slight scratch on the laptop, all were 'like new', came with original packaging etc. The laptop had a 120 day warranty, the other items 6 months. Never a problem and saved a bundle, especially with the laptop which was less than half the price of a new one.

In the UK, there is no 30 day limit for return of faulty goods, in fact there's no time limit at all, though it's normally taken to be a year. In the first six months any faults are deemed to have been pre-existing when first bought. So these returns will eventually end up back with the manufacturer for refurbishment and eventual reselling.

When resold, I guess you might call them 'B stock' or 'C stock' in the USA.