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Title: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 02:49:44 AM
I’m down to choosing between two cases for my Genos.  I like the weight of the soft case but feel the hard shell affords more protection and is heavier.  I gig twice a week....keyboard rides in covered pickup bed.

Which would you choose? And why?  Please speak your mind whether you have a case or not.

http://gatorcases.com/products/keyboard/tsa-ata-keyboard-cases/tsa-keyboard/deep-76-note-keyboard-case-w-wheels-gtsa-key76d/


http://gatorcases.com/products/keyboard/pro-go-ultimate-keyboard-gig-bags/pro-go-keyboard/76-note-keybaord-gig-bag-g-pg-76/

Tx

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Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: gdc on February 22, 2018, 03:41:35 AM
I have the Gator soft bag which I had for my T5 and fits the Genos okay. I find it great for gigs, but then I put it on the back seat of my vehicle. It seems well padded and much cheaper on Amazon than from Gator. Hope this helps.
Graeme
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Toril S on February 22, 2018, 05:13:18 AM
I have the soft case from Gator for my S970. Hard shell cases are heavier, but if you intend to fly with it, you must have it. Or rather, don't fly with it! I have seen how they treat our luggage! If you gig twice a week I guess weight will matter. After all, you have to carry it to the venue and back to the car, and then in your house. Enjoy your Genos :)
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: hammer on February 22, 2018, 05:44:31 AM
I have gigged 4-6 times weekly for the past 12 years using only a well padded
soft case without wheels for my keyboards.  I have yet to have a damaged keyboard with this setup.   Unless you are traveling by public bus or plane I think the hard shell cases are overkill.  I have had my cases custom made by Blue Heron - not cheap but worth the money.

Deane
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Al Ram on February 22, 2018, 05:54:16 AM
29 pounds vs less than 10 . . . .. ?

for me that makes a big difference .. . . .   i would go with the lighter one, except if you are traveling by plane very often.

For me the other consideration would be wheels, . . . .i wish the lighter model would have wheels, i would buy it . . . .

thanks
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 06:05:40 AM
Tx all.  I do like the weight of the lighter case.  However, what concerns me is riding in my pickup box...it won’t be riding in a car.

The hard shell case makes me feel more secure.  I’ve been gigging with a PA4X in an SKB hardshell case....55lbs total.  The Genos and hard shell would be about 60lbs.

I’m not sure what I’ll do yet.  But your responses have been really helpful.

Tx

Deane, how’s the weather down there?  Been two months of below freezing temps here in Paul Bunyan land.
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: jimlaing on February 22, 2018, 06:55:23 AM
I'd probably go for the lighter "gig bag" - 29 lbs. plus the keyboard equals "too heavy for what I want to carry around".

I'm actually considering this one; it has wheels and is a <10 lb. gig bag:

https://www.fusion-bags.com/collections/keyboard-gig-bags-for-61-76-keys/products/f3-keyboard-11-gig-bag

Jim
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Eric, B on February 22, 2018, 07:34:03 AM
How about this :
Can you put a nice thick blanket in your pick up and then use a soft case?
That could work ..... ;)
Eric
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Al Ram on February 22, 2018, 07:40:44 AM

I'm actually considering this one; it has wheels and is a <10 lb. gig bag:

https://www.fusion-bags.com/collections/keyboard-gig-bags-for-61-76-keys/products/f3-keyboard-11-gig-bag

Jim

Jim
for me this is a great option. However, it looks that company does not ship to USA.   I could not find USA on their list.  Interestingly, Canada is listed but no USA.

I was able to find the same bag with a USA distributor.   but now The other question of course is if it would fit the 76key Genos because the bag you listed is the 61-76 keys with wheels.  They only have the 76-88 keys with wheels in USA. . . . the 61-76 they offer does not have wheels which for me is the main point.

thanks
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
I'd probably go for the lighter "gig bag" - 29 lbs. plus the keyboard equals "too heavy for what I want to carry around".

I'm actually considering this one; it has wheels and is a <10 lb. gig bag:

https://www.fusion-bags.com/collections/keyboard-gig-bags-for-61-76-keys/products/f3-keyboard-11-gig-bag

Jim

Where do you find these in the US?
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 08:09:47 AM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/fusion-keyboard-15-gig-bag-with-wheels-76-88-keys/k48056000000000

The thing I wonder is if dimensions reported are interior or exterior dimensions?
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: jimlaing on February 22, 2018, 11:05:18 AM
Here is what I found for Fusion bags in US:
https://www.fusion-bags.com/pages/stores-in-the-usa

The "11" model has these dimensions (interior):
1270 x 520 x 215 mm / 50 x 20.47 x 8.46 ins

I think that is too big actually.  The Model "10" is:
1195 x 470 x 220 mm / 47.05 x 18.50 x 8.66 ins

Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: zionip on February 22, 2018, 12:38:50 PM
Dimensions of Genos is:  1234 x 456 x 138 mm / 48.56 x 17.94 x 5.44 in.

So model "10" (1195 x 470 x 220 mm / 47.05 x 18.50 x 8.66 in) is too small for Genos, model "11"  (1270 x 520 x 215 mm / 50 x 20.47 x 8.46) is the closest size for Genos.

I clicked on the U.S. stores that carry the Fusion bags, but could not find any stores carrying model "11".  All of them carry models 12, 14, 15, and 16, which are all too big for Genos.

Thanks,
Paul
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 01:40:30 PM
Are these fusion dimensions interior or exterior dimensions?  Or, does that even matter given it is a soft case?
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 02:11:21 PM
Found it. Looks like this is the best fit Fusion bag.

https://www.fusion-bags.com/products/f3-keyboard-11-gig-bag
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Al Ram on February 22, 2018, 02:24:26 PM
Found it. Looks like this is the best fit Fusion bag.

https://www.fusion-bags.com/products/f3-keyboard-11-gig-bag

Great.  I wonder if it will fit Genos.  Their picture shows a Tyros 5.

thanks
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 03:23:36 PM
Anybody seen this for sale anywhere?

https://www.google.com/search?q=yamaha+genos+keyboard+bag&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=sivn&ei=-G6OWppxxsCPBMf8tNgO&start=10&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=723#imgrc=HNYpmKERIq238M:
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 22, 2018, 03:25:05 PM
Great.  I wonder if it will fit Genos.  Their picture shows a Tyros 5.

thanks

Interior dimensions look right.  Haven’t found it for sale in the US
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: 1-man-band-berlin on February 22, 2018, 06:47:28 PM
I use the Thomann PVC cases, they are light weighted, but protects the instrument perfectly, much better, than a soft case could do. Possibly they are a little heavier, but everytime I received the case, I thought "Did they do wrong? Did they send me a keyboard bag instead?", because the box wasn't heavy.
You can save money and buy the cases, that they made for Genos or spend a little more money and decide, that it may have another color (that's helpful, when you use a twin set and so you are not confused).
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: AlBags on February 22, 2018, 07:24:00 PM

I'm sticking with the official SCC Yamaha bag/case.
Very expensive, but at least has extras, like a bag for the rest, and detachable bag on side.
And from Thomann, who offer a great Service.
Shame not available in US easily. Folks should complain to Yamaha.

Al.
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: jimlaing on February 23, 2018, 03:00:34 AM
I just wrote to Yamaha asking about the SCC Genos case being available in USA.  I'll post their response when I hear back ...   
-Jim
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: soryt on February 23, 2018, 04:20:26 AM
Anybody seen this for sale anywhere?

https://www.google.com/search?q=yamaha+genos+keyboard+bag&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=sivn&ei=-G6OWppxxsCPBMf8tNgO&start=10&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=723#imgrc=HNYpmKERIq238M:

I have this keyboard bag for a while , and the genos fits nice , But i didnt neet the extra ad on "Bags" , it makes the whole case to heavy
if you put al your bits and pieces in it . , better a extra bag ore little suitcase . quality is good enough, but not for use as a fligtcase ( to flex)
and the price is much to high when you look at the same size bags .( i got it for 50% - :-) )
For the Tyros i had a lightweigt "Hardcase" that weights 4Kg , but the company who made this cases doesnt exsist anymore (factory from Poland), they where excelent .


Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Gloria on February 23, 2018, 10:15:18 AM

Been there, done that!  ???   Go for the hard shell!   :)
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 23, 2018, 11:14:08 AM
Been there, done that!  ???   Go for the hard shell!   :)

Gloria,

Tx for commenting.  You’re about the only one so far giving a hard case a 5humbs up.
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: KeyboardByBiggs on February 23, 2018, 01:04:20 PM
Gloria,

Tx for commenting.  You’re about the only one so far giving a hard case a 5humbs up.

Make that two of us! I always go for maximum protection!
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 24, 2018, 01:47:22 AM
Biggs,

Which bag/case are you using?
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: KeyboardByBiggs on February 24, 2018, 11:32:10 AM
Which bag/case are you using?

Gator ATA Molded TSA Keyboard Case - 76-key
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GTSA76Deep

You can see me unbox it here (there are jump links in the description box):
https://youtu.be/Ki_Wj3I-Jpo
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 24, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
Biggs,

Liked the unboxing video.

How is it handling the Gator case with the Genos inside?  Weighs how much?  About 60lbs?

Tx
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: KeyboardByBiggs on February 24, 2018, 08:17:11 PM
How is it handling the Gator case with the Genos inside?  Weighs how much?  About 60lbs?

LOL Never stopped to weigh it!

The thing I think I like most about the case is that on one end there are inline skate wheels, so you can just drag or push it around.
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Antonio on February 24, 2018, 08:24:13 PM

Which would you choose? And why?  Please speak your mind whether you have a case or not.

http://gatorcases.com/products/keyboard/tsa-ata-keyboard-cases/tsa-keyboard/deep-76-note-keyboard-case-w-wheels-gtsa-key76d/

👍
:D :D With this you can Fly and land peacefully.

Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Wim NL on February 24, 2018, 08:48:04 PM
Why the deep Version?
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: KeyboardByBiggs on February 24, 2018, 09:10:55 PM
Why the deep Version?

That was recommended as the best fit by my Sweetwater Rep.
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on February 24, 2018, 09:39:35 PM
You can see me unbox it here.......

A good and enjoyable unboxing video, even for me that already has unboxed Genos and quite a few other keyboards during the years. Some very nice additional equpment you got too.
The part about how to handle manuals made me smile, not only smile, but ...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I tend to do the same at first, but when got things up and running I always take the time to look inside the pages. Also as updated pdf from supportsite, as we can see is downloadable now when v1.20 is out.
I use to peek into it even if I think it's no news in there. You'll never know, all that sudden there is a tip or two about things we haven't thought about. ;)
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: Wim NL on February 24, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
This version should fit and is sheaper, smaller, lighter.

https://www.gear4music.nl/nl/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Gator-GTSA-KEY76-ATA-76-nota-toetsenbord-geval-met-wielen/D6L?origin=product-ads&utm_campaign=PLA+Shop+-+All+Products&utm_medium=vertical_search&network=google&adgroup=All+Products&merchant_id=9717153&product_id=17085d7&product_country=NL&product_partition_id=41714565755&gclid=CjwKCAiAt8TUBRAKEiwAOI9pAHtq9Q35GT41tCUlgPBRkvelM7ftGFqZur3Zm3rbe7T0mHXf19hBRhoCliMQAvD_BwE

Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: KeyboardByBiggs on February 25, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
A good and enjoyable unboxing video, even for me that already has unboxed Genos and quite a few other keyboards during the years. Some very nice additional equpment you got too.

Thanks so much Gunnar!

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The part about how to handle manuals made me smile, not only smile, but ...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Life is too short for manuals right off the bat...maybe later. :)

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I tend to do the same at first, but when got things up and running I always take the time to look inside the pages. Also as updated pdf from supportsite, as we can see is downloadable now when v1.20 is out.
I use to peek into it even if I think it's no news in there. You'll never know, all that sudden there is a tip or two about things we haven't thought about. ;)

Yep, totally agree!
Title: Re: Genos case help needed
Post by: guitpic1 on February 25, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
Many thanks to all who contributed to this post.  This is the case I ordered.  It really came down to weight.

http://gatorcases.com/products/keyboard/pro-go-ultimate-keyboard-gig-bags/pro-go-keyboard/76-note-keybaord-gig-bag-g-pg-76/