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Title: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: Qiqone on November 29, 2017, 03:34:08 AM
How you create guitar strumming when you do ''style from scracth''???

I'm not thinking of copying some track from another style where is some track with rhythm guitar that is close to what you want!!!

Thank you
Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: Dusan on November 29, 2017, 11:03:31 AM
Create natural Guitar struming in Style is impossible mision.
You simply can't create 8 or 16 struming beat wich could be
close to natural on Kayboard.So the simple solution is coppy from
ather Style's or create struming on DAW like Yamaha did...
Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: pjd on November 29, 2017, 01:50:20 PM
Hi Qiqone --

Welcome to the forum!

Suggestion #1: Buy and use MIDI phrases that were recorded using a MIDI guitar controller. The MIDI phrase collections by Twiddly Bits have acoustic and electric guitar strum and picking patterns.

Suggestion #2: If you or a friend have and can play a MIDI guitar controller, then record strum and picking patterns. I have a You Rock guitar for this purpose. I can't play more than a few basic chords, but the You Rock has built-in open chord tunings.

Hope this helps -- pj
Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: Qiqone on November 30, 2017, 01:52:11 AM
Thanks @Dusan and @pjd.

I guess is easier to find a guitar player then get exactly what I'm looking for!!!

Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: DrakeM on November 30, 2017, 05:14:21 AM
Hi Qiqone

I create a custom made song specific style just about every week and finding the correct Guitar Strum never has been an issue (the Drummer has been). You will need an extensive resource of Yamaha styles to sort through however. The collection I have a massed is comprised of every Style name Yamaha has included since 2001 in their Tyros, PSR and CVP models. Also I have added all 29 expansion packs that Yamaha gave away for their S950 keyboard (an amazing collection.)

Now the best and easiest way to begin your collection is to acquire them here:

http://psrtutorial.com/cdrom/productsum.html

For a couple hundred examples of what you can create using your Yamaha styles, just click on my LIBRARY link below in my signature.  ;)
If you are not familiar with country music, you can go to YouTube and search for the song and compare it to the style I have created to cover the song. Also keep in mind all my recordings are "live play" as I never use a midi file to perform and sing any of my songs.

Regards
Drake
Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: Qiqone on December 04, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
@ DrakeM thank you for infos.

I didn't know that the drummer is a problem :o. But however, is good to know.
Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: mcbrown on December 06, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Hi pj,
I have a Roland GR-55 guitar synth connected to my Stratocaster. If I was to record a midi of strums and picking etc would that have to be in a CMaj7 scale/key to match chord changes? I am happy to try but not sure how to go about it to get usable strums etc for the Genos.

Murray
Title: Re: Guitar strumming in Style???
Post by: pjd on December 07, 2017, 06:20:30 AM
Hi Murray --

Glad to hear that you're giving this a try!

Yep, you're right. The recorded notes must match the chord root and chord type (NTR/NTT).

Most folks use CMaj7 for the chord root and type.

Extra credit: It's OK to use a different root or type as long as the NTR/NTT info matches exactly.

Double extra credit: Guitar parts in many Yamaha styles don't worry about the chord shape (i.e., choosing notes to correspond to strings). They set the NTR to "Guitar" and let the guitar transposition tables work out the rest. Of course, this is an SFF2-only (SFF GE) feature.

Hope this helps -- pj