Hi metcam --
Thanks! Unfortunately, I sold my DX-21 back in 1995 -- like everything else which went up in value after I sold it. :-)
Finally, "MONO-LEGATO" dawned on me. For other folks, here is a long quote from the DX-21 manual:
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2. Fingered Portamento: Portamento only occurs if the previously played note is held while the next note is played. This mode is useful in recreating the effect of guitar string bending techniques, wood bass slide effects, etc. If you lift your hand off the DX21 keyboard between notes, there will be no portamento effect.
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So, yeah, I see your point. I can't remember if the DX suppressed the attack of the second note or not? It's been a long time!
All the best to you -- pj
Meaning Korg play 'correctly" I meant that MONO-LEGATO portamento working fine with Sampled programs.
One more time:Mono-Legato portamento working on internal Tyros voices,But not working on Custom voices made from "wav-aiff" samples.
And Yes,I already contact Yamaha,continue doing since 1999.So many folks Ask them this questions and Yamaha so far about this problem newer listen.
We know Yamaha watching this great forum so I posted here also....
So, you're now saying that Portamento works properly on Yamaha arrangers, right? That's quite a change from your first post.
And the problem you're having is with custom voices, not anything standard on keyboard. So isn't it the voices that need fixing, not the keyboard?
Regards,
Fred
Let's just stay on the subject !!! All that we need is tools !! Arranger Keyboard is all about make it the way you want it !!! If Yamaha wants to stay on that course than make it works !! It really doesn't matter where you from !!!
What we need is Portamento MONO/LEGATO on WAV format !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That goes for the new Tyros or however you name it Yamaha !!!
On the other hand, the fact that the newish PSR-A3000 apparently does what they're asking for in this thread might-- might-- suggest that Yamaha is thinking about implementing this behavior on other upcoming models. Did the PSR-A3000's predecessors behave the same way, or is it new to the PSR-A3000?Yamaha PSR A3000 Oriental is the sole arranger who has Mono Legato , has no predecessors!
Yamaha PSR A3000 Oriental is the sole arranger who has Mono Legato , has no predecessors!
I hope you understand what I mean!
Yes, I got you. :) And it looks like the Tyros 5's manual is very similar to those of the PSR-A1000 and PSR-A2000 as far as their information about the Mono/Legato option and Portamento, so I'm guessing they don't implement it in the same way that the PSR-A3000 does, i.e. the way that's being asked for in this thread.follows the arrow and see what is missing in Tyros 2, 3, 4, 5 !
Yes, I got you. :) And it looks like the Tyros 5's manual is very similar to those of the PSR-A1000 and PSR-A2000 as far as their information about the Mono/Legato option and Portamento, so I'm guessing they don't implement it in the same way that the PSR-A3000 does, i.e. the way that's being asked for in this thread.
Personally, I never used that feature, and I play all kinds of music using a wide variety of right hand voices. And, I don't know of anyone that uses it. So, if it's such a necessary feature to employ, how about those of you that require it post some of your music so we can hear how it is employed in the specific songs where it it is required.
Gary 8)
Which they will probably do starting with the Genos.. doesnt cost much to implement these kinds of features they allready developed.. and it indeed would add something for everyone
Well, not everyone. It wouldn't do anything for those of us who never use the feature.
Fred
Hello Gary! It really is a feature that does not have much use, but in some songs can make life easier for the arranger. Listen to the introduction of this song. It is much easier to change the notes (flute) with the portamento triggered. Hug!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feBKqSnDoHg
I understand what you are saying, but I must say that I do not agree with you, sorry
I think that mono legato + (fingered) portamento OR basically having portamento GLIDE configurable is ESSENTIAL feature for ALL "balkan"-like music types.
Take a look at any of the videos from here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/juzisound/videos
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eu2VRMlTdk
and you will see what I'm talking about.
For example I understand that you probably do not "understand" or "like" this type of music but trust me when I say that this feature is MANDATORY for everyone on BALKAN/ORIENTAL area.
for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U_qbepJ1LY
OR even better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1NqlJQcXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyPLVvPX_z4
This is what I'm referring to, and until yamaha makes this happen on TYROS keyboards really small number of people in Balkan will play it. Maybe those who play "foreign" music...but for "our" national weddings etc... no go :(
ALSO, if you guys think that BALKAN is small market I must say you are sooooo wrong, but OK I understand that this is not useful for those who do not use it of course, but if they think World Wide why is this ignored in their THE BEST ARRANGERs and again is available in basically ALL yamaha workstations (non arranger keyboards)
Balkan
about 55 million people
Bulgaria, Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Romania, Italia, Albania, Greece, Turkey, etc..
My best bet is that the feature will be integrated in some of the new sounds, which will sound awesome, and you will probably use those... so from this kind of features even you would benefit indirectly...
Perhaps in 2025 Yamaha will feature a proper portamento function. ::)
It's about time to wake up Yamaha!!!!!!!!!Hi Jan
We really need a proper portamento/mono legato in our Yamaha arrangers, why is it so hard to make that?
The built-in feature it's a piece of crap, and also very limited.
As some of you mention, the Mono/legato feature is not only used in Balkan and Middle East Music, but in EDM Music as well.
It is very frustrating when you working with EDM styles and you're trying to create a great drop lead melody in a Intro with portamento effect,
but you can't because in Style Mode the Mono feature/button doesn't work. >:(
Instead i have to use the pitchbend to get similar effect.
Here is 2 short demos i've done, showing 1 bad portamento, and 1 proper Portamento/glide.
See attached Mp3 files.
Mono 1:
It sounds exactly like Yamahas crappy built-in feature.
Mono 2:
A perfect Portamento/legato/glide, this is what we need in our arrangers.
Perhaps in 2025 Yamaha will feature a proper portamento function. ::)
Regards, Jan.
Request for all future new arrangers from Yamaha:
Portamento on sampled Custom voices:
Yamaha : wake up please and make PROFESSIONAL PORTAMENTO on new arrangers.
There is a lot of musicians from Eastern Europe,Balkan,south east Europe ....and every were else who need PORTAMENTO same as KORG PA arrangers or DX models....
For a lot of musicians wil be a BIG reason to bay NEW Tyros6 or whatever is going to be named...
Since """psr9000PRO""" we keep asking you (Yamaha) and for some reason YOU don't LISTENING.
Please Give as PROFESSIONAL PORTAMENTO!
Thank you Yamaha.