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Title: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Rubberdock on October 15, 2020, 09:27:06 AM
How do I connect my Genos to my computer.
When I turn on my Genos what button should I use?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: ckobu on October 15, 2020, 09:53:46 AM
It depends on what you want to do. To get started, install Drivers for Yamaha.
https://youtu.be/U9yOmmYcxxw (https://youtu.be/U9yOmmYcxxw)

Then you can access the USER drive on the computer via Storage mode.
https://youtu.be/tyD_uIcYmCY (https://youtu.be/tyD_uIcYmCY)

You can record in DAW via USB MIDI protocol.
https://youtu.be/vjqUzC4DqnI (https://youtu.be/vjqUzC4DqnI)

You can move data from your computer to Genos via Musicsoft Downloader.
https://youtu.be/5BjSBuKEcw4 (https://youtu.be/5BjSBuKEcw4)
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Rubberdock on October 15, 2020, 11:22:39 AM
Hej ckobu

Thanks  :) :)
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: EileenL on October 15, 2020, 11:40:01 AM
With Genos turned off connect the cable to computer from Genos. Now hold down the PLAYLIST button while turning on the keyboard. You will now see the genos user section and can move and rename files etc.
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Rubberdock on October 15, 2020, 12:03:40 PM
Hej EileenL

Thanks  :) :)
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Dave Nuttall on October 28, 2020, 10:56:39 AM
You can record in DAW via USB MIDI protocol.
https://youtu.be/vjqUzC4DqnI (https://youtu.be/vjqUzC4DqnI)
The URL above seems to show Cakewalk.   I have ProTools.   Over the years, I've toyed with the idea of recording in ProTools, but it seems like you need an "audio interface" and a substantial investment in soundfonts.   Can anyone declare what is needed for the least sophisticated Genos <--> ProTools (Windows10) to record/edit, etc?

TIA.
Dave
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: EileenL on October 28, 2020, 03:36:59 PM
Why not just record on your Genos. The quality is excellent.
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Dave Nuttall on October 28, 2020, 03:54:07 PM
Why not just record on your Genos. The quality is excellent.
That is what I have always done, Eileen!  I guess as I scan the forums, I get virtually infected with "geek envy".....want to be able to do what all the "masters" are doing....don't really have a reason/need.  Just want-to!  ;D
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: EileenL on October 28, 2020, 06:22:24 PM
I am happy just sitting down and with two hands and a Genos to produce music to keep the spirits up in these awful times. Never been one for wanting to play like the original version of a song. Like to put my own stamp on it. Good luck with you quest.
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: overover on October 28, 2020, 07:38:14 PM
The URL above seems to show Cakewalk.   I have ProTools.   Over the years, I've toyed with the idea of recording in ProTools, but it seems like you need an "audio interface" and a substantial investment in soundfonts.   Can anyone declare what is needed for the least sophisticated Genos <--> ProTools (Windows10) to record/edit, etc?

TIA.
Dave

Hi Dave,

normally you always work on MIDI level first, even in connection with a DAW / PC. All you need, as mentioned, is a USB cable to establish a USB-MIDI connection between the keyboard and the PC. You have one MIDI Transmit Port (to control the DAW from the keyboard) and two MIDI Receive Ports (to control the keyboard's MIDI sound engine from the DAW).

Normally you control the MIDI Port 1 of the keyboard from the DAW, i.e. the SONG Parts. If, in exceptional cases, the Keyboard Parts (Left, Right 1-3) and/or the Style Parts are to be controlled from the DAW, the MIDI Port 2 can be used for this.

You only need an Audio interface if you want to record the keyboard's analog Line Outputs (Main L/R and/or the Sub Outs) in the DAW.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Lee Batchelor on October 29, 2020, 09:05:49 PM
Why not just record on your Genos. The quality is excellent.
Eileen is 100% correct. When producing a song, recording MIDI only represents about 10% of the chore. The remaining 90% is editing. This varies according to one's goals for the final recording. If you just want to hear how you play, then just do it on the Genos. If you're after a higher end point, you need to edit everything in a DAW because for editing MIDI, the Genos isn't even house broken - and was never really meant for that purpose.
Title: Re: Connect my Genos to my computer
Post by: Dave Nuttall on October 29, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Eileen is 100% correct. When producing a song, recording MIDI only represents about 10% of the chore. The remaining 90% is editing. This varies according to one's goals for the final recording. If you just want to hear how you play, then just do it on the Genos. If you're after a higher end point, you need to edit everything in a DAW because for editing MIDI, the Genos isn't even house broken - and was never really meant for that purpose.

In retrospect, I probably should have said EDITING in a DAW vs. recording.

For most of the nine years that I've been recording (PSR-S910 until Genos in 12/2019), I've relied on MixMaster for editing/adjusting the MIDI before rendering to audio.   As I tried to suggest after Eileen's response about recording on the Genos, my interest in using a DAW is likely more "geek envy" than real need, although I would welcome ideas about how EDITING with a DAW can be superior to MixMaster editing.

Thanks, Lee.
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