Topic: Fantastic, Simple Easy Yamaha Midi to Style!!

[Des O]

Yamaha Midi to Style is fantastic! Just what we needed.
I have tried with a few in auto simple mode and the results are great!
Remember you must disable the ACMP on the key when doing it, then turn it on after you load it direct to the keyboard via usb or flash. (If you leave it on it sounds rubbish)
Its **** near perfect and you can adjust to your liking.
The quality of the midi should be good to start though. Ive tried a few and I am impressed!
Genos 1 voicelist
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/contents/keyboards/downloads/content_data/index.html?k=&c=keyboards&l=en&p=4

Some tinkering is all thats needed, this is simple happy days well done Yamaha!

[Lee Batchelor]

So, is this the new MIDI style creator for the Genos 2? Is it free to Genos 1 customers? Does it work with Genos 1? Thanks Des.

[Roger Brenizer]

Is it free to Genos 1 customers?

It's free to anyone who wishes to download the app, Lee.

[PhotoDoc05]

Lee,
I have it working on the SX-900 too. There is a "Voice List" folder that you can download that contains .txt files for SX-900/700/600, A5000, Genos and Genos2.
By default, it loads the Genos 2 voice list, so just go to the menu, and Import the Voice List file for any of those keyboards.
Jerry

[rphillipchuk]

Please direct me to the "Voice List" for the DGX 670.........

Thanks

[Des O]

Is it compatible? SFF & GE files? It will be in the downloads section of your keyboard on Yamaha website if it is. Either way use it with basic voices then changed them when saved/loaded on keyboard.

[Bill]

Sorry guys. But what has the voice list got to do with the Midi to Style app.

Bill

[Des O]

If you use the app without it you just get basic voices as defined by the midi file.
If you add the voice file G1 or G2, I think G2 is pre installed according to the instruction manual you can then hear the voices for your keyboard. I don't think it's needed but it's there to use and gives you a better style how it would sound.

[Bill]

Thanks Des

When I first looked I was thinking of the voice guide feature.

bill

[SingerSongwriter]

What is the name of the app? I only see the voice list on that download page. Thanks!

[Des O]

What is the name of the app? I only see the voice list on that download page. Thanks!

Here you go
https://usa.yamaha.com/support/updates/midi_song_win.html

[PhotoDoc05]

Maybe this will help clear up some things:

You need 2 downloads,  the App itself (MIDI Song to Style) and the Voice List (folder of several .txt files for different keyboards)
They are zipped files, so unzip them to where you want them stored.

I did not see this under the PSR-SX900 downloads, for now it's only under the Genos 2 downloads.

So install the app, and by  Default it will be using the Genos 2 Voice List. For other keyboards, you then go to the Edit menu, and select "Import Voice List".
At this time, it allows you to import for Genos, Genos2, PSR-A5000, PSR-SX600 / 700 / 900.  (Nothing for the DGX-670, at least not at this time)

It says to use a sampling rate of 44.1Khz, but I happen to be using 96K, and works fine with the SX-900. I can also Save the Style directly to the SX-900, or to USB drive.
Jerry

[Lee Batchelor]

Fantastic! Thanks everyone .

[Lee Batchelor]

Is the voice list for Genos entitled, "Voice Guide file for Genos (English)"? That's the one I downloaded in addition to the app itself.

[PhotoDoc05]

The name of it is   MIDISongtoStyle_VoiceList_V1.01.zip
It includes files for both MAC and Win10/11

[Lee Batchelor]

I know the app name is MIDI_Song_to_Style_Win.zip. That's the file I downloaded from the link provided earlier. I was asking about the voice list name. Did I download the correct one? On that page, there are no specific voice list names. Thanks .

[Jim]

Dang it all.  I just saw that it's only for Windows 10 and 11 which leaves me out.  Oh, well.....

[p$manK32]

I was asking about the voice list name. Did I download the correct one? On that page, there are no specific voice list names. Thanks .

Lee,
Do a search in the box for: "Voice List for MIDI Song to Style"
It will download as a folder containing Genos, Genos2, SX600/700/900 text files.

Rich

[SingerSongwriter]

OK, I have the app installed and the voices added. Does anyone have a Genos style file *as MIDI* that I could load in so I could see how this works? I will keep trying with MIDI files of my own but I'd like to see what the finished product should look like on the MIDI side.

[Des O]

Here is the official Yamaha video instructions for Midi to Style. Enjoy
😉

https://youtu.be/yYfPbMFM5wo?si=a0Zxil5fB_vbmKrd

[Bill]

Dang it all.  I just saw that it's only for Windows 10 and 11 which leaves me out.  Oh, well.....

Hi Jim

It is for the Mac also - works as expected on both.

Bill

[kiplis]

Lee,
Do a search in the box for: "Voice List for MIDI Song to Style"
It will download as a folder containing Genos, Genos2, SX600/700/900 text files.

Rich

Any idea if the "Voice List for MIDI Song to Style" only affects the data going from the computer to the workstation while playing the style, or if it also affects to the sounds of midi files while reproduced in the workstation, i.e. once you actually use the style? (any better end result...)

[Des O]

Any idea if the "Voice List for MIDI Song to Style" only affects the data going from the computer to the workstation while playing the style, or if it also affects to the sounds of midi files while reproduced in the workstation, i.e. once you actually use the style? (any better end result...)

It gives you the voices the keyboard you are using has, you can change any to suit for the end result that would be on the keyboard when you play. It saves you from adjusting if you have already loaded on the board after. In a sense pre-production.

[Lee Batchelor]

Lee,
Do a search in the box for: "Voice List for MIDI Song to Style"
It will download as a folder containing Genos, Genos2, SX600/700/900 text files.

Rich

Thanks Rich. It worked!

[rgw]

Can someone tell me how to load this app. in the SX900 please?
I can't find instructions on how to do this.
Thanks in advance.

Richard.

[ugawoga]

I want all and i want it now!!

[PhotoDoc05]

Hello Lee,
Yes, you do have the correct fliename for the APP --  MIDI_Song_to_Style_Win.zip

Notice that the second file you need is named very similarly   MIDISongtoStyle_VoiceList_V1.01.zip

When you extract the .zip file for the Voice List   it creates a folder with the same name, and 2 subfolders:

_MACOSX  folder  and
VoiceList   folder    <-------  This folder contains the 6  .txt  files (one for each currently supported keyboard)

So, if you have the app installed, and the VoiceList folder extracted, you then go to the menu,
select "Import Voice List", then navigate to that expanded folder, and choose one of the keyboards.
Hope that helps,  Jerry

[Lee Batchelor]

Yes it does, thanks Jerry .

I watched the video and it looks like this is also an external Style editor!!! This is a major breakthrough for users because we no longer need to use the absolutely horrible Style Editor on the Genos . This is a major game changer for those who like to create their own styles. Well done, Yamaha!!

[valimaties]

Can someone tell me how to load this app. in the SX900 please?
I can't find instructions on how to do this.
Thanks in advance.

Richard.

Richard, the software is not loading IN SX900 or any keyboard. The software will be installed on a PC or Mac, downloading the equivalent app from Yamaha's website.
After you install the app on your computer in Edit menu you can load those txt files taht Jerry already said about.

Regards,
Vali

[mikf]

What keyboards are currently compatible with this new app - CVP series?
Mike

[PhotoDoc05]

  ---- Mike,
Currently there are Voice lists for  Genos, Genos2, PSR-A5000,  PSR-SX600 / 700 / 900

 ---- Lee,
Great, glad you have it working!  Now all we need are some in-depth tutorials on how to fully use this app!
The "Easy" mode works to a certain extent,  as a start,  but we really have to manually edit the Style.

Jerry

[Lee Batchelor]

Thanks and agreed, Jerry. Think of the other possibilities where users can share their newly created styles.

Most of the current Genos styles are very good but they could be edited to make them better. This long awaited software is perfect for that. For example, in the Acoustic Jazz style, there is one bass note that reverts to a minor pentatonic - away from the major pentatonic, which is acceptable but not for some songs. This new software will make such edits easy, instead of hunting for each of those notes using the current editor on board the Genos.

[musicman100]

It worked fine on my psr s770!! aswell

[valimaties]

What keyboards are currently compatible with this new app - CVP series?
Mike

I saw the file with the voices. This patch file could be made for any Yamaha keyboard that can play SFF2 styles. I'm sure this software creates only SFF2 styles.
I don't know if CVP plays SFF2 style, but if so, having datalist of voices (MSB, LSB, PC numbers and Voice Name) this can be done.

Regards,
Vali

[Des O]

  ---- Mike,
Currently there are Voice lists for  Genos, Genos2, PSR-A5000,  PSR-SX600 / 700 / 900

 ---- Lee,


Great, glad you have it working!  Now all we need are some in-depth tutorials on how to fully use this app!
The "Easy" mode works to a certain extent,  as a start,  but we really have to manually edit the Style.

Jerry

There is from Yamaha
https://youtu.be/yYfPbMFM5wo?si=K27ZRdmhwObGNCXp

[andy_v]

Most of the current Genos styles are very good but they could be edited to make them better. This long awaited software is perfect for that. For example, in the Acoustic Jazz style, there is one bass note that reverts to a minor pentatonic - away from the major pentatonic, which is acceptable but not for some songs. This new software will make such edits easy, instead of hunting for each of those notes using the current editor on board the Genos.

Sadly, you can't open and edit style files in this new utility; you can open midi files and save style files.

[Lee Batchelor]

Sadly, you can't open and edit style files in this new utility; you can open midi files and save style files.

Nuts! So, where did the style come from in the demo video at https://youtu.be/yYfPbMFM5wo?si=K27ZRdmhwObGNCXp
I can only assume her MIDI file was created from scratch? If so, that's a major deal breaker. There's a huge difference between editing an already built style and having to create one from scratch. I guess there really is no free lunch .

[StuartR]

Nuts! So, where did the style come from in the demo video at https://youtu.be/yYfPbMFM5wo?si=K27ZRdmhwObGNCXp
I can only assume her MIDI file was created from scratch? If so, that's a major deal breaker. There's a huge difference between editing an already built style and having to create one from scratch. I guess there really is no free lunch .

Ha. It seems there's more attention being paid to the free MIDI to Style converter than to the G2 itself. We do love free stuff (especially compared to the ~$5700 cost of a G2).
I'm betting YAMAHA could have given us this converter way before now for existing arrangers but instead waited to try and buffer the shock of what they want for a G2. Draw your own conclusions about that!

[Duurduur]

Lee,
I have it working on the SX-900 too. There is a "Voice List" folder that you can download that contains .txt files for SX-900/700/600, A5000, Genos and Genos2.
By default, it loads the Genos 2 voice list, so just go to the menu, and Import the Voice List file for any of those keyboards.
Jerry

I have a PSR-SX900 too, but where can I find the the "Voice List" for that device. Please give the link or a copy of your file.

UPDATE!!
I already found the txt file myself.

Regards Ruud

[robinez]

I have now spent a few hours on it and I am really blown away by the result, you can create one song style after another, it is so easy once you know the program. I connected my Genos 1 directly to it, so you can immediately hear what it sounds like on your Genos.

I have already transferred:
- volare
- rocking around the christmas tree
- piano man
- how deep is your love
and much more,

it's really a matter of dragging it in and then adjusting the markers if you don't think it's quite right. It will take you about 2 to 5 minutes per midi file to create a really good style once you know this program well. The program does all the rest for you.

If you consider that styles easily cost 12 euros each online, then this is a very good and cheap way to expand your keyboard with all those song styles once you have the midi file (and the internet is full of midi files). so that's not the problem anymore)

considering the questions above:
- you can't edit the midi notes
- you can revoice existing styles by renaming them to .mid and then dragging them in the editor.
- the revoicing can be done with the detailed edit page if needed.
- the sx900 voicelist is in the voicelist download on the yamaha songeditor page, just select edit - import voicelist in the program and select the sx900 file from that voicelist download

the voicelists for the supported models can be found on this yamaha page:
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/apps/midisong_to_style/downloads.html

[ugawoga]

If you have a midi file and a computer , you could i would believe edit midi notes to your liking before converting.

[ugawoga]

Ha. It seems there's more attention being paid to the free MIDI to Style converter than to the G2 itself. We do love free stuff (especially compared to the ~$5700 cost of a G2).
I'm betting YAMAHA could have given us this converter way before now for existing arrangers but instead waited to try and buffer the shock of what they want for a G2. Draw your own conclusions about that!

Well, the Style converter is really a big one and opens up a new world for you and what is underneath the hood is what counts for the end results. The Genos 2 is ahead of all other arrangers by a mile.
You are saying really ,"give the Natives a mirror and they will be happy as Larry"   "Why not"! "I'm happy"!!

[SingerSongwriter]

- you can revoice existing styles by renaming them to .mid and then dragging them in the editor.

Ooh I am gonna try this if I can figure out how to save a Style file off my Genos.

[DrakeM]

I am using the program on my PC. However I have nothing to select when I try to open the "MIDI Input Device". A drop down widow does not appear. Therefor I hear nothing.

When I select the "MIDI Output Device" there is a drop down window.

Does anybody have advice as to get my "MIDI Input Device" to give me an option to select so I can hear the midi file?

I have input a midi and saved it as a "sty". It does work on my S950 keyboard perfectly.

Do I need to have my keyboard connect to my PC in order to hear the midi play?

[DrakeM]

WOW ... I just checked and ONE style this program created and it is UNLOCKED for editing. 

It appears we can now edit the guitar and horn riffs in the LOCKED preset Yamaha styles.

[ugawoga]

Hi Drake

Yes you need to connect your Keyboard to computer to use the program
You would also need the Steinberg driver as well which is all available on the Yamaha Genos 2 downloads
atb
John

[Lee Batchelor]

you can re-voice existing styles by renaming them to .mid and then dragging them in the editor.

That's a HUGE game changer!!!
So far, no one has mentioned where they get their MIDI files from. Building a MIDI file for a style is a huge task. If we can just rename one and modify it on the MIDI to Style software, that saves literally hours of work!!

[Ryszard Bieszczad]

The Yamaha Midi to Style is fantastic.
I installed everything, entered the midi file and I have the style ready.
After slight modifications, it plays perfectly on my Tyros 4.
A very good external program.
Regards
Richard

[mikf]

Even if the keyboard eg the CVP705, is not on the list, presumably you could load one of the voice files from the nearest equivalent, then make the style and if necessary do a bit of voice editing on the keyboard. then it should work.
However, although it seems great, you do have to have the appropriate midi file to start from, and these are not that much easier to get than a style file.
Mike

[Lee Batchelor]

The Yamaha Midi to Style is fantastic.
I installed everything, entered the midi file and I have the style ready.
After slight modifications, it plays perfectly on my Tyros 4.
A very good external program.
Regards
Richard

You wrote, "I installed everything, entered the midi file and I have the style ready." Please tell me the source of your MIDI file. Thanks .