Hi,
I wrote to Yamaha Germany (where I live now) to expose a probleme with User Voices when I wanted modify or create a style. And they answered that:
""Hello ,
Thank you for your request for style information. In fact, you can not use any user voice. Even if you could change it, the preselected voice underlies this user voice (Preset) is used. This is unfortunately the case. But you can take any extension voice. It works without any problem, these voices have their own program change number.
With a user (User), only the change of the parameters is recorded, but the voice receives no program change number. Therefore, the original voice is always taken."
So I tried to redo voices with YEM and make a Pack, as was said in the answer, with modified voices but it does not because:
- if we make a custom voice in Yem, starting from various possibilities of voices of origin contained in the T5 and that one creates a new pack, it does not work because apart from the use in Right 1, 2 or 3, in the style as in the sequencer we return to the base value, ie the original sound preset.And the identifier of the voice remains the same as the origin, contrary to what is said.
Small parenthesis: in the voices used to create Custom Voices, there is no, of course, voices Super articulation or simply the basic voices used to make them but without being able to create them (example: the Pedal Steel )
- if we do the same thing from a normal voice of a pack and modified then saved, if we load the pack, the modified voice will be usable as in the first case (R1, R2, R3) but neither in the styles, nor in the sequencer because, always the same, we return to the original voice.
Which means that on the T5, whatever you do, the changes will only be taken into account in the live game but not in the sequencer or the Creator style. The only solution is to integrate a DSP effect in the Mixing Console but, in this case, it's the whole line of an effect that will have this DSP!
So you have to create a new voice and with YEM, it's not pie. And what is annoying is that we can not copy a voice from one pack to another, whether in YEM or T5! We can just, on the T5 go through the voice set, make an ultra minimal modification and save it in User, for example, or elsewhere but the problem will always remain the same in use! And not obvious to go and collect the samples voices not even Yamaha to create the sound you want!
Other than that, Yamaha is not a hyper-locked system! I'd like to know if it's only with Tyros 5 or if it's the same with Genos
Regards and Good Advent Time
Seagull29 (from Germany)