Topic: Are Genos 2 styles bang up to date for modern tunes.

[Ron]

I find that the limiting factor with Yamaha keyboards is that the stock styles do not keep up with modern music. More styles are added with every new model release but the content still tends to favour old and mostly favourites from yesteryear.  How is Yamaha going to persuade young players to purchase a keyboard on which most of the styles relate to tunes that they do not even know?  To be fair, the majority of modern pop music is unplayable to most people but how can a young up and coming musician be expected to buy an expensive “ band in a box” keyboard which does not cater for modern tastes.  This does not affect me or most of the players that I know as we are all deeply rooted in the music of years gone by and I only have a Tyros 3 but still manage to find built in styles for the sort of music I like to play. It is possible to create one’s own styles but this needs knowledge and experience which would not automatically be available to most players.  Styles can also be bought or downloaded from various forums etc but if I was now starting from scratch I would choose a keyboard which was not classed as a work station but meant to be played as a musical instrument.  No styles available if using this route but if playing in a band, as I used to do, then built in styles are not needed.  Any thoughts on this topic?

[DrakeM]

I am not sure what you are calling music of today.

If it is hip hop ... I think that music is all one chord songs with just different drum patterns changing during the song.

Pop music is just repeating the same lyric line 3 or more times in a row, add one verse and repeat until you have a 3 to 4 minute vocal take.

With today's country music you can use your 26 country styles and steal parts from your Pop&Rock, R&B and Ballad styles to make styles to fit what they are calling today's country music.

All the parts are contained in the styles, you just need to move stuff around to make styles for what ever you want. 

[mikf]

Why do retirement homes not have hip hop playing on the background music, or a video games gallery. If they did they might attract a lot more young people to stay there😏
Yamaha know the market for these instruments. As they know the market for all the instruments they sell.
Mike

[chesterkins]

I mentioned this in an earlier thread   
In Genos 2 there were basically NO new Dance styles BUT a lot of new styles from the 80's
So yes Yamaha know the age range they are targeting

[Divemaster]

Why do retirement homes not have hip hop playing on the background music, or a video games gallery. If they did they might attract a lot more young people to stay there😏
Yamaha know the market for these instruments. As they know the market for all the instruments they sell.
Mike

As a registered carer, I think as you get older, and your joints start to give out, your eyesight starts to deteriorate, and your memory starts to fade, ANY music is very welcome.

You won't be HIP HOPPING anywhere my friend.

It's called Old Age!

Keith

[EileenL]

I find Yamaha Keyboards have there fair share of head banging styles Plus the DJ ones that are suitable for todays so called music.

[Rick D.]

Ron,

I don't think young people have $5500 to spend on a keyboard and besides that there is not too much new music out there worthy of it's on Style.

I am still holding off on the Genos 2, I will likely make my move in the fall as I normally wait a year after the release of a new keyboard to see popular opinion and until they get the bugs worked out. Also the price will come down a bit. This strategy has worked for the last twenty years.

Rick D.

[EileenL]

We have been lucky with Genos2 No real bugs and have only had one update so I am well pleased with mine.

[pjd]

Why do retirement homes not have hip hop playing on the background music, or a video games gallery. If they did they might attract a lot more young people to stay there😏
Yamaha know the market for these instruments. As they know the market for all the instruments they sell.
Mike

Mike is right on. EDM, hip hop, etc. are an afterthought on Genos/PSR. The few styles are there in case a performer gets a request at a wedding reception or whatever.

Yamaha makes instruments which are targeted at contemporary genres -- the Montage/MODX synths and now the SEQTRAK groove box. The SEQTRAK is styled like the popular Teenage Engineering products and is teen-to-twenties affordable: $399 USD (MAP/street). The workflow and companion app support the "beat-making" production process.

As to musical genres, I'm not about to yell "Get off of my lawn" at anybody. 

Peace and playing -- pj

[pjd]

BTW, if anyone wants additional hip-hop or whatever DJ styles, I converted DJX-II patterns to DJ styles:

https://sandsoftwaresound.net/free-djx-ii-styles-version-2/

Download 'em. They're free.

All the best -- pj

[Jørgen]

BTW, if anyone wants additional hip-hop or whatever DJ styles, I converted DJX-II patterns to DJ styles:

https://sandsoftwaresound.net/free-djx-ii-styles-version-2/

Download 'em. They're free.

All the best -- pj

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Jørgen

[KurtAgain]

Hi
Link does not work here---
Jørgen

I have no problems with the link.

[DrakeM]

When go to the web site page and I click on the “Click on this link to download the ZIP file.”

In the download ICON there is a message that shows up and reads:
File not downloaded: Potential Security Risk.  (in RED lettering)

BUT the file does download. 

[overover]

Hi
Link does not work here---
Jørgen

Hi Jørgen,

This is a "http://..." link (maybe a typo). Just right-click to copy the link address, paste it into your browser's address bar and change the protocol "http://..." to "https://...". Then the download shoud work.


Best regards,
Chris

[pjd]

This is a "http://..." link (maybe a typo). Just right-click to copy the link address, paste it into your browser's address bar and change the protocol "http://..." to "https://...". Then the download shoud work.

Chris is correct -- thanks, Chris!

Grrrrr.     My site is riddled with links to older content and Wordpress doesn't automatically update such links to "https://" .

I changed the link to the ZIP file to begin with "https://". Please test the new link and let me know if there are still issues.

Sorry for the bother, but browsers have gotten a lot pickier since I first posted this content.

All the best -- pj

P.S. Thanks for visiting the site and reporting issues!

[DrakeM]

You have it fixed up perfect now. No issues at all. 

[Jørgen]

....
Sorry for the bother, but browsers have gotten a lot pickier since I first posted this content.

All the best -- pj

P.S. Thanks for visiting the site and reporting issues!

Thanks for the explanation and the fix.
Should have figured it myself...
Regards
Jørgen