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Online Pianoman

Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« on: November 27, 2017, 09:01:52 AM »
Hello Everyone,

This video is from a summer outdoor barbecue party with friends here in Ibiza.
We do this once every year.

A group of 75 people come all the way from Holland just for this Barbecue and of course to the fun that Ibiza has to offer. They've become good friends of mine now, and everything is very casual and laid back here.

Just good friends, simple fun, and plenty of Argentinian Steaks and Spanish wine.

Here I'm playing solo guitar on my T3 for a few seconds..
It was just beginning to get dark so you can't see me very well.
It is something we black musicians always worry about when playing in semi darkness.

Please just enjoy the video and don't take me or the video too seriously.
I never take myself too seriously anyway.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.

PS: The video size is small, so you may have to play it on full screen.


https://youtu.be/cI6_RpTjj1I
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 08:36:31 AM by Pianoman »
 
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Offline tyrosman

Re: Watch this and tell me if Genos will improve my sound.
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2017, 09:06:37 AM »
Fantastic Pianoman :)
TYROS 5 the best ever
 

Offline maartenb

Re: Watch this and tell me if Genos will improve my sound.
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2017, 09:11:21 AM »
Well done! Entertaining all those people!


Maarten
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if Genos will improve my sound.
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2017, 09:13:02 AM »
Maarten,
Dat zijn, vijf en zeventig Nederlanders. Helemaal Gek.
Alle vrienden van mij. Wij doen dat elke jaar hier.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 09:17:41 AM by Pianoman »
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if Genos will improve my sound.
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2017, 09:22:25 AM »
Hi Pianoman,

Impressive as usual!

For your information, the Genos has the following S.Art2! sounds with 3 articulation buttons associated, which allows you more controls on voice articulations, especially good for solos.  Since you know how to play saxophone, you will be very happy.
 Unfortunately, acoustic and electric guitars sounds are not in the list, they are up to S.Art! sounds only, which means only 2 articulation buttons per voice - for you they are probably not a limiting factor:

Group   Category   Name   Type   MSB   LSB   PC   Tyros 5   S970

Panel   Accordion   Harmonica   S.Art2!   8   64   105   Harmonica   -
Panel   Accordion   BluesHarmonica   S.Art2!   8   65   105   BluesHarp   -
Panel   Brass   Flugelhorn   S.Art2!   8   64   63   -   -
Panel   Brass   MuteTrumpet   S.Art2!   8   64   65   MuteTrumpet   -
Panel   Brass   SoftTrumpet   S.Art2!   8   64   66   JazzTrumpet   -
Panel   Brass   ClassicTrumpet   S.Art2!   8   65   66   ClassicTrumpet   -
Panel   Brass   Trombone   S.Art2!   8   65   74   Trombone   -
Panel   Brass   Trumpet   S.Art2!   8   66   66   Trumpet   -
Panel   Brass   BigBandTrumpet   S.Art2!   8   67   66   BigBandTrumpet   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   Flugelhorn   S.Art2!   9   64   63   -   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   MuteTrumpet   S.Art2!   9   64   65   MuteTrumpet   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   SoftTrumpet   S.Art2!   9   64   66   JazzTrumpet   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   ClassicTrumpet   S.Art2!   9   65   66   ClassicTrumpet   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   Trombone   S.Art2!   9   65   74   EnsTrombone   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   Trumpet1   S.Art2!   9   66   66   EnsTrumpet1   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   Trumpet2   S.Art2!   9   67   66   EnsTrumpet2   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   TromboneShake   S.Art2!   9   81   74   EnsTromboneSK   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   Trumpet1Shake   S.Art2!   9   82   66   EnsTrumpet1SK   -
EnsemblePart   Brass   Trumpet2Shake   S.Art2!   9   83   66   EnsTrumpet2SK   -
EnsemblePart   Others   Harmonica   S.Art2!   9   64   105   Harmonica   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   FunkBaritoneSax   S.Art2!   9   64   82   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   FunkAltoSax   S.Art2!   9   64   84   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   SopranoSax   S.Art2!   9   64   85   EnsSopranoSax   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   SmoothTenorSax   S.Art2!   9   65   81   JazzSax   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   BaritoneSax   S.Art2!   9   65   82   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   AltoSax   S.Art2!   9   65   84   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   BalladSopranoSax   S.Art2!   9   65   85   BalladSoprano   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   TenorSax   S.Art2!   9   66   81   EnsTenorSax   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   BigBandBaritone   S.Art2!   9   66   82   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   BigBandTenorSax   S.Art2!   9   66   83   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   BigBandAltoSax   S.Art2!   9   66   84   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   SopranoSaxGrowl   S.Art2!   9   80   85   EnsSopranoGR   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   BaritoneSaxGrowl   S.Art2!   9   81   82   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   AltoSaxGrowl   S.Art2!   9   81   84   -   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   TenorSaxGrowl   S.Art2!   9   82   81   EnsTenorSaxGR   -
EnsemblePart   Saxophone   TenorSaxShake   S.Art2!   9   84   81   EnsTenorSaxSK   -
Panel   Strings   JazzViolin   S.Art2!   8   64   49   JazzViolin   -
Panel   Strings   ClassicalCello   S.Art2!   8   64   51   -   -
Panel   Strings   CelticViolin   S.Art2!   8   65   49   CelticViolin   -
Panel   Strings   PopCello   S.Art2!   8   65   51   -   -
EnsemblePart   Strings   JazzViolin   S.Art2!   9   64   49   JazzViolin   -
EnsemblePart   Strings   ClassicalCello   S.Art2!   9   64   51   -   -
EnsemblePart   Strings   CelticViolin   S.Art2!   9   65   49   CelticViolin   -
EnsemblePart   Strings   PopCello   S.Art2!   9   65   51   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   IrishPipesAir   S.Art2!   8   64   109   IrishPipeAir   -
Panel   Woodwind   PopOboe   S.Art2!   8   64   69   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   PopBassoon   S.Art2!   8   64   71   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   ClassicalFlute   S.Art2!   8   64   75   ClassicalFlute   -
Panel   Woodwind   BreathyTenorSax   S.Art2!   8   64   81   BreathySax   -
Panel   Woodwind   FunkBaritoneSax   S.Art2!   8   64   82   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   FunkAltoSax   S.Art2!   8   64   84   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   PopSopranoSax   S.Art2!   8   64   85   PopSoprano   -
Panel   Woodwind   BalladClarinet   S.Art2!   8   64   93   BalladClarinet   -
Panel   Woodwind   IrishPipesDance   S.Art2!   8   65   109   IrishPipeDance   -
Panel   Woodwind   ClassicalOboe   S.Art2!   8   65   69   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   ClassicalBassoon   S.Art2!   8   65   71   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   JazzFlute   S.Art2!   8   65   75   JazzFlute   -
Panel   Woodwind   SmoothTenorSax   S.Art2!   8   65   81   JazzSax   -
Panel   Woodwind   BaritoneSax   S.Art2!   8   65   82   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   AltoSax   S.Art2!   8   65   84   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   BalladSopranoSax   S.Art2!   8   65   85   BalladSoprano   -
Panel   Woodwind   Clarinet   S.Art2!   8   65   93   Clarinet   -
Panel   Woodwind   TenorSax   S.Art2!   8   66   81   TenorSax   -
Panel   Woodwind   BigBandBaritone   S.Art2!   8   66   82   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   BigBandTenorSax   S.Art2!   8   66   83   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   BigBandAltoSax   S.Art2!   8   66   84   -   -
Panel   Woodwind   RomanceClarinet   S.Art2!   8   66   93   RomanceClarinet   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   IrishPipesAir   S.Art2!   9   64   109   -   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   PopOboe   S.Art2!   9   64   69   -   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   PopBassoon   S.Art2!   9   64   71   -   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   ClassicalFlute   S.Art2!   9   64   75   ClassicalFlute   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   ClassicalOboe   S.Art2!   9   65   69   -   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   ClassicalBassoon   S.Art2!   9   65   71   -   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   JazzFlute   S.Art2!   9   65   75   JazzFlute   -
EnsemblePart   Woodwind   Clarinet   S.Art2!   9   65   93   Clarinet   -

Thanks,
Paul
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 09:25:42 AM by zionip »
 

Offline DonM

Re: Watch this and tell me if I still need a Genos to improve my sound.
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2017, 09:33:33 AM »
With your ability, the only one who will notice what keyboard you're playing is you, and maybe another arranger player. 
All the latest top of the line arrangers sound great; it's about what suits you, and the operating features you like to have.
I've always kept up with the latest models, and nobody notices when I change!
I will say the drums will be better on Genos though.  That and the weight are to me the biggest advances.

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I need a Genos to improve the sound.
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2017, 09:34:19 AM »
Wow.
Thanks Paul.
I'll have to download this on my PC and print it as a Word file.
Was this originally from an Excel file or txt file?

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 09:44:15 AM by Pianoman »
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I still need a Genos to improve my sound.
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2017, 09:37:45 AM »
With your ability, the only one who will notice what keyboard you're playing is you, and maybe another arranger player. 
All the latest top of the line arrangers sound great; it's about what suits you, and the operating features you like to have.
I've always kept up with the latest models, and nobody notices when I change!
I will say the drums will be better on Genos though.  That and the weight are to me the biggest advances.


Thanks Don.
I'll keep that in mind. Actually Gary basically said the same thing yesterday too.
That the only one who will notice a difference will be me. Not the audience.
They just want to party, whatever keyboard you play.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 09:54:55 AM by Pianoman »
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I need a Genos to improve the sound.
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2017, 10:02:20 AM »
Wow.
Thanks Paul.
I'll have to download this on my PC and print it as a Word file.
Was this originally from an Excel file or txt file?

Best Regards,
Pianoman.

Hi Pianoman,

See this message for Genos Voices Excel file:
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,40823.msg320020.html#msg320020

See this message for Genos Styles Excel file:
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,40844.msg320238.html#msg320238

You can click the attachments to download them, thanks to Uli's contribution.

Thanks,
Paul

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2017, 10:13:17 AM »
Hi Pianoman,

A very detailed style comparison thread for Tyros3, Tyros4, Tyros5 vs Genos from Wim NL, where you can download the Excel file:
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,41434.msg325732.html#msg325732

Paul
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 10:24:30 AM by zionip »
 

Offline Marcus

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2017, 10:23:51 AM »
You are an awesome keyboard player, singer and entertainer. No keyboard can replace these skills or your personally that shines through your playing.

Since you are already familiar with the Tyros and you worn out your Tyros 3, I would lean towards a lightly used Tyros replacement or a brand new Tyros5/Genos arranger. Go with the lighter Genos and all the advantages this new arranger has loaded.

Yamaha place a lot of emphasis on the Genos contemporary/dance music theme. Yamaha's Martin Harris pointed out his high interest in 80s music and how these Retro pop/rock styles and sound made their way into the Genos. Completely leans towards your genre of party and music entertainment performances.

As you know, a strong drum and bass parts are what drives dance music. The ability on the Genos to switch up individual drum instruments or edit within a drumkit would work out very well as you tweak what you like, plus great new Revo kits and retro drum kits.

I don't have my Genos yet, but many forum members report the significant improvement in the bass style parts. Again, super necessary in driving a dance/party style. You also like to work and take advantage of all those SA2 voices and the articulations. Huge upgrade with respect to increased number and improved live, sweet, SA, SA2 and Mega voices plus all the styles and multipads that use them.

So I would be in the opinion that with all the significant improvements on the Genos, your great playing would sound significantly better and more noticeable on a Genos, plus more resources for you to work from.

A new Tyros 5 would also be a good choice, but give the Genos a good work over when you get the chance and make the best informed decision you can make.

Marcus
Gear: Triangle
 

Offline TotallyKenny

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2017, 10:37:29 AM »
 Hello pianoman ,       That was outstanding  !    You play fantastic and we're having a wonderful time and that's what really matters  ;D   we would have a great time ,  Jamming ,   Godspeed , TotallyKenny   8)
Music for life
 

Offline soundphase

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2017, 10:44:51 AM »
Why does a violin virtuoso need a Stradivarius if he never plays for real music lovers ? .... For his own pleasure .
 

Offline Toril S

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2017, 12:19:15 PM »
Hi Pianoman. Awsome!!! You do not need a Genos!
Toril S

PSR S970, PSR 2100 and PSR-47.
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2017, 12:40:20 PM »
Hi Pianoman,

IMHO someone's playing skills, musical talent, great performance and the pro sound quality are impressing the audience.

A talented musician, singer and/or entertainer does not need the latest arranger keyboard to convince his public but it might be a very useful tool to improve a gig or a show.


Jeff
DAWS MAC & WIN
 

Offline alans

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2017, 01:12:22 PM »
Hi Pianoman

That was incredible,😁😁
I reckon  you  could make a comb and  a piece of greaseproof paper sound good.😆😆

Makes me wonder why I bother 😃😃

Alan

Previous keyboards-Yamaha PSR 410,Technics KN2000,KN5000,KN6000 , KN7000 and Tyros5
 

Offline Roger Brenizer

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2017, 04:11:09 PM »
The link has expired, Pianoman, so unfortunately I didn't get to watch your video.  :(

What's a Genos?  LOL!!!  I've watched enough of your videos to know you could make any keyboard sound good.  :)  :)  :)
"Music Is My Life"
My best regards,
Roger

(The older I get...the better I used to be...LOL!!!)
Rogerís PSR Performer Page
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2017, 05:58:59 PM »
Hi Roger.

I managed to get the link back again.
So you can watchbit now.

Best Regards,
Pianoman

Online stephenm52

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2017, 06:07:54 PM »
Pianoman, Great show! Some people got it and some donít......youíve got it!!
Youíd sound good on any keyboard, but youíd probably feel a whole lot better playing a Genos :)
GENOS, Clavinova CVP 307, PSR s970, Korg Pa4x-76
PSR Performer Page  -  Steve's Gig Disks[/u]
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2017, 06:28:48 PM »
Thanks Stephen.

The link to the video had expired. I didn't know that it had a shelf life of X hours then it expires.

One of the Dutch guys at the Barbecue party had posted it on Facebook.
I really don't have a clue how to download  it from Facebook.

I tried installing some Facebook download apps.
But you have to enter Facebook through the app, which means giving them your login password.
 
I slammed on the brakes and quickly uninstalled them.
I'll just have to keep reloading the link every time it expires.

Best Regards,
Pianoman

Offline whataguy

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2017, 07:24:11 PM »
WOW! I had to watch multiple times to get the full effect. Although I believe you left out a note around the 55 second mark. Please send more.  Don in MI

Offline Patrick

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2017, 07:31:50 PM »
Hi Pianoman, thank you for this nice moment with your music, great guitars, cheers Patrick
 :)
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2017, 07:56:22 PM »
I put Pianoman's guitar solo on Tyros 3 video on Youtube as public video, until he updates his video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9s7NwMwOFk

Thanks,
Paul
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 12:56:29 PM by zionip »
 

Offline Afton72

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2017, 10:41:15 PM »
I'm told I do not have permission to open the video
                       Alan
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2017, 10:48:14 PM »
I'm told I do not have permission to open the video
                       Alan

Hi Alan,

I put Pianoman's guitar solo on Tyros 3 video on Youtube as public video, which can be accessed by anyone - there are already 21 views as of now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9s7NwMwOFk

Thanks,
Paul
 

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2017, 12:23:23 AM »

All this leaves me with one quetsion.

Who has more benefit from upgrading to the latest and greatest?

An average player like me?
Or a real pro that can squeeze the last bit out of every instrument?
Or maybe even a beginner?

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2017, 01:22:34 AM »
Good question, Spirit !

The budget might probably be the main issue, I guess.😧

Jeff
DAWS MAC & WIN
 

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2017, 02:44:56 AM »
Thanks to Paul for reuploading to YT.
(This is why Facebook will never replace YT as it is all over the place with sharing links it seems. Expired links? Really, Zuckerberg?  ::))

Awesome skills Pianoman! Love it.  8)  Would love to be able to entertain people in that way one day, I'm doing my ABRSM and Rockschool grades in my late 30s so who knows. The video shows that these arrangers can form the centrepiece of the music/entertainment at a party when they are in good hands for sure.

You definitely DON'T NEED a Genos I reckon going by those skills but another way to look at it is if you have such great skills you might as well get the best there is. You could probably make an old PSR arranger sound good, but why bother. If I were in your position with such public entertainment opportunities, had those skills and the cash was available I'd get one for sure. Don't think you'd need to upgrade from each arranger to the next. From a Tyros 4 to 5 might not be worthwhile. But from a Tyros 3 to a Genos probably is enough of a sound quality improvement & functionality improvement to justify it in your position.

Definitely go to some shops and demo the Genos. It's not as if you would irritate the shop owners / other customers if you can play that well.  ;D

I've been playing some basic guitar chords for over 20 years or so (never really improved). I have a basic Fender acoustic guitar. I remember about 15 years ago visiting a guitar store in Amsterdam with my father and playing a $5000 Martin acoustic. It was as if the guitar played it itself. Such moments definitely prove to me it is worth spending the extra money if you have the cash (and skills). And thus it definitely is worth while having a Tyros / Genos over the top of the line PSR etc despite what some may say. There wouldn't be any point giving Max Verstappen or Lewis Hamilton the keys to a battered up Lada at the start of the next grand prix etc.  ;)

I see people argue on Youtube demo videos about the cost of a Genos. Such people probably don't know that there are $100.000 - 250.000 Steinways and Faziolis out there.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 02:56:57 AM by AndrewKeyz »
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2017, 03:16:49 AM »
I'm told I do not have permission to open the video
                       Alan

Hi Paul,

You're a genius and a gentleman.
I had been struggling all evening to get the video back up again after it had expired.
I will now download it to my phone.
I am not a very technological guy regarding all this Facebook and YouTube stuff.
In fact it was my 20 yr old son who filmed and posted the YouTube videos on my behalf, for my YouTube channel.
Again you have come through for me. Many thanks.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 10:51:01 AM by Pianoman »
 

Offline jgriffin

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2017, 05:19:48 AM »
It's amazing how sometimes our children/grandchildren can actually HELP US!  Mine have been doing so for years - technology wise.  There's always something new to learn and they can always answer any question I have at the time.  Lovely benefit!

I have also previously watched your videos in amazement and total ENVY!!  You gave a gift and the GENOS would only enhance it even more in my opinion.  I got mine a couple of weeks ago (and kept my T5) and it's definitely more user friendly and the sounds to me are exquisite right out of the box.

Best,
Janet
Janet
PSR Performer page
GENOS, Yamaha Baby Grand, (2) Motif ES8, Tyos 2, (2) Tyros 3, Tyros 5-76, DGX-650 & 660, Yamaha P140, StagePas 300 & 600, (2) Bose Compact, Yamaha AG06
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2017, 06:16:09 AM »
Hello Everyone,.

I want to thank everyone here for your advice, compliments, and encouragements.

It is one of the reasons that I love this forum.
There is always someone who will take his or her precious time out of their busy day to help another.

I am writing on my phone, so I would have to constantly scroll up and down to be able to thank everybody individually by name.

Suffice it to say that I have read all your advice and compliments and encouragements and I am deeply grateful.

I will be testing a Genos next week and will keep you posted.

I find the T5 an interesting option as well, but it will probably be more of the same.
Not technologically, but structurally.

The fact that Yamaha created such a technologically advanced instrument, and then put tiny and slippery keys on it,
has baffled me from day one, and will continue to do so.

That is one of the many reasons why I love, and could never give up my Stage Piano.
It restores a bit of sanity to the proceedings.

All the technology notwithstanding, the most important connection between man and machine is the keys.
Tiny and slippery keys make it very hard to play fast passages.

My Tyros has broken buttons that are hard to repair by myself. And more will keep breaking,  because many of the 8 buttons under the screen are shaky already.

This is the only reason that I'm thinking of getting a new keyboard. Otherwise I would keep the T3 for another 5 years.

There is no one here willing or qualified to repair these buttons. They're all on and under the screen.
The screen would have to be removed from the keyboard first, and then taken apart.

It's not as easy as it sounds. Believe me, I have tried, manual in hand, and failed.

It was too risky, and if I messed up, I could have ended up with a screen displaying only green lines.

I tried to upload 5 photos of the broken buttons but they kept being rejected. I may have to upload them one at a time.

I will have to send my keyboard to Yamaha Spain for repairs, but ask first if they are still willing to repair a T3.
And then remain keyboard-less for God knows how long.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 10:46:30 AM by Pianoman »
 

Offline DonM

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2017, 07:49:47 AM »
Just get a Genos.  You will never regret it.  You MIGHT regret not getting one.  :)

Offline Ingar

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2017, 08:00:34 AM »
Hello Everyone,

This video is from a summer outdoor barbecue party with friends here in Ibiza.
We do this once every year.

A group of 75 people come all the way from Holland just for this Barbecue and of course to the fun that Ibiza has to offer. They've become good friends of mine now, and everything is very casual and laid back here.

Just good friends, simple fun, and plenty of Argentinian Steaks and Spanish wine.

Here I'm playing solo guitar on my T3 for a few seconds..
It was just beginning to get dark so you can't see me very well.
It is something we black musicians always worry about when playing in semi darkness.

Please just enjoy the video and don't take me or the video too seriously.
I never take myself too seriously anyway.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.

PS: The video size is small, so you may have to play it on full screen.

https://video.fmad3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-2/20468769_353914395022121_5668304825725485056_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwOSwicmxhIjo1MTIsInZlbmNvZGVfdGFnIjoic3ZlX3NkIn0%3D&oh=70dbecbca0a3385e40f311ed694a9f27&oe=5A1CF83E

Cant see it.....URL signature expired
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2017, 08:10:47 AM »
Cant see it.....URL signature expired

You can watch the video here for the time being:
https://youtu.be/z9s7NwMwOFk

Paul
 

Offline Ingar

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2017, 08:26:19 AM »
Thank you Paul... Good musician and high party factor. A bit too noisy for my ears, but that's me .. ;D
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2017, 08:32:56 AM »
Hi Paul.

Yuo have saved my skin again.
I would have asked  you to be my manager if you  didn't live so far away.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 10:52:13 AM by Pianoman »
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2017, 09:05:21 AM »
Hi Pianoman,

It's been my pleasure to help.

Some statistics, up to now, there are totally 95 views of your video since I posted it on Youtube.

Thanks,
Paul
 
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Offline jgriffin

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2017, 09:57:27 AM »
I FEEL YOUR PAIN............

Janet
PSR Performer page
GENOS, Yamaha Baby Grand, (2) Motif ES8, Tyos 2, (2) Tyros 3, Tyros 5-76, DGX-650 & 660, Yamaha P140, StagePas 300 & 600, (2) Bose Compact, Yamaha AG06
 

Offline tyrosman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2017, 11:22:54 AM »
hi Pianoman what is the Name of the club you are in i might come Next year  and give you a song ive put 2 songs in the Chrismas performance section today im like you we sing and play the same songs :)
TYROS 5 the best ever
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2017, 12:37:56 PM »
Hi Tyrosman.

I don't play in a club. I work for hotel chains both here and in the south of Spain.

Here I play in 5 hotels per week. They shuffle the order of the hotels every season.
But it's basically always the same hotels, just in a different order every time.

I also do private parties whenever time allows. Like with the Dutch guys above.

On the mainland it's different. I play in the same hotel 5 nights a week as s resident musician.

I've had a heavy summer, working 28 days a month.
So I won't be working again till mid January.

At the moment I'm trying to sell one of my Kidneys to pay for the Genos, if i like what I hear.
I'll be putting Ads in the papers and the Internet, saying "Need to buy keyboard, Kidney for sale, in good working condition."

I'm also spending some quality time with my family before I have to rush off again.

In the summer I only come home to eat,sleep, then I rush out to set up my gear in the next hotel and perform, so my family don't see me much in the summer.

BTW:  The temporary video location had expired. The video is now on my permanent YouTube channel, along with my other videos.


https://youtu.be/cI6_RpTjj1I


Best Regards,
Pianoman 
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 01:51:05 PM by Pianoman »
 

Offline zionip

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2017, 12:54:52 PM »
Hi Pianoman,

Since you updated your video link, I removed mine, which counted for 97 views when your original video link went expired while you were sleeping last night.

Thanks,
Paul
 
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Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2017, 01:38:33 PM »
Thanks Paul.
I downloaded it from the website you posted, saved it in my phone, and posted it on my YouTube channel along with my other videos.
Thanks again.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2017, 02:19:12 PM »
Just get a Genos.  You will never regret it.  You MIGHT regret not getting one.  :)


Hello Don,

Thank you for your advice.
I am also intrigued by the Korg PA4X.
I understand that you perform with one.
If so, since you have both the Genos and Korg,
you may be the only one here who might be in the best positon to give a fair opinion
on both these instruments.

Assuming that you are presently using them side by side.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2017, 03:22:45 PM by Pianoman »
 

Offline travlin-easy

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2017, 02:30:15 PM »
Keep in mind that both you and Don Mason are outstanding entertainers, which is the most important aspect of your performances. The keyboard is only secondary, and both of you would sound great with either the Korg PA4X or Genos. Of course you both sound great right now, so you may be able to salvage that kidney from being harvested and implanted. ;)

Good luck,

Gary 8)
Love Those Yammies...
 

Offline DonM

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2017, 10:41:02 PM »

Hello Don,

Thank you for your advice.
I am also intrigued by the Korg PA4X.
I understand that you perform with one.
If so, since you have both the Genos and Korg,
you may be the only one here who might be in the best positon to give a fair opinion
on both these instruments.

Assuming that you are presently using them side by side.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.
I don't have a Genos, only the PA4X.  My most recent Yamaha is PSR S970.  I dearly love the Korg.  It has all the sounds I need, even though that dreamy new Pedal Steel Guitar on the Genos is tempting.
The main thing I love about the Korg is the size, weight and wonderful operating features.  It has many programmable sliders, buttons, etc., the great Chord Sequencer, and the Songbook is great.  The Vocal Harmonizer is by T.C. Helicon and is truly outstanding.  The midi-to-style converter works surprisingly well also.  If you start with a good midi file, in 10 seconds or so you can have a good style!
 It does have great guitars, saxes, organs and pianos and the drums are very realistic.  The guitars, and other sounds, as a rule are not as "prepared" as they are on Yamaha, but they are deeply editable and it's easy to set them the way you like.  Korg has DNC voices, which work similarly to Yamaha's SA voices.  I have become a fan of them.  I often find that some of the Yamaha voices do too many things automatically and that I'm not in control of them.  I just read there may be a way to disable some of that though.
You would probably enjoy and benefit from the KAOSS feature that appeared with the latest free Korg update.  Check it out on YouTube.  It's not something I use much, but is great with more modern music. 
There would be a learning curve, but no worse that if you were going from Korg to Yamaha and having to learn that operating system. 
Another great feature is the EC5 foot pedal, allowing five assignments, plus another single programmable foot switch, and dedicated volume and sustain pedals.   The EC5 is not expensive, but well built and light in weight.
The Genos has three pedal inputs, but they are all three programmable, so that would certainly suffice for me in that category.  I only have two feet so more than three pedals is too much for me to fully utilize anyway.
The new Revo drums seem to be finally at a professional level!  About time!  :)
One drawback on the S970 is that the audio drums, in most cases, sound so good that it makes the midi drums sound worse.  Not so with the Genos, which has made the audio drums not necessary, at least to Yamaha's way of thinking, and mine as well.
I will certainly audition the Genos after the first of the year, but I don't expect it to replace my Korg.  If I win the lottery, I would have both.  :)  But I never buy a ticket so that may not happen!
I didn't know you were considering the Korg.  If you are really busy and don't have some free time to learn the Korg OS, you may be better served to stay with Yamaha, and reward yourself with the Genos!  Just my opinion of course.  There's not really a wrong choice, but one of the other may suit you better.  The Korg is certainly less expensive, if that is a concern, but money is well spent if it improves the tools of your trade!

DonM
 

Offline DonM

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2017, 10:41:52 PM »
Keep in mind that both you and Don Mason are outstanding entertainers, which is the most important aspect of your performances. The keyboard is only secondary, and both of you would sound great with either the Korg PA4X or Genos. Of course you both sound great right now, so you may be able to salvage that kidney from being harvested and implanted. ;)

Good luck,

Gary 8)
You are very kind Gary.  If I do win that lottery I'll get you a Genos too old friend!  :)
DonM
 

Online stephenm52

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2017, 03:00:48 AM »
You are very kind Gary.  If I do win that lottery I'll get you a Genos too old friend!  :)


Don,  Gary's right on you and Pianoman are tops. as entertainers................Lottery winner? You probably won't be, I think you should just buy a Genos for Gary anyway ;D ;D ;D


Gary, You can't blame me for trying.
GENOS, Clavinova CVP 307, PSR s970, Korg Pa4x-76
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Offline Gunnar Jonny

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2017, 03:10:47 AM »
Topic:
Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.


But why should top entertainers like Pianoman and DonM who already have a concept that works well and people love, change anything in the well working setup?
Not only for the change of equipment itself, I assume it's not needed for the shows, (public will probably never notice), then it most be your for personal joy and challenges.
As many already said in countless posts: It's not the keyboard, it's the player who makes the difference.
Never change a winning team. ;)
Cheers & Happy Playing.  :)
GJ
_______________________________________________
"Success is not counted by how high you have climbed
but by how many you brought with you." (Wil Rose)
 

Offline MINKYCATS

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2017, 12:55:22 AM »
Hi Pianoman,

As previously stated, you are an extremely talented musician and technical guru. I replied to one of your threads yesterday which I can no longer find.  It concerned the state of your keyboard and how you look after it.

I am not concerned about the state of your keyboard because basically it is none of my business and you use it primarily as a work tool.

However, I noticed that you said that some of the electronic stuff could be seen under the broken Exit button. That bit did concern me because I fear for your own safety.

Please make sure that you are not exposing yourself to the risk of electric shock. At least make sure of that. I know that you put yourself and family as your priority. We appreciate you and whatever keyboard you play for us in whatever condition itís in as long as itís safe for you to play.

Should you eventually buy a Genos, I wish you many happy hours and much enjoyment playing it as with your present board.

Kindest regards

Trevor (MINKYCATS)

Yamaha AR100 organ:  Tyros 5 - 61
Previous: Hammond C3 with PR40 tone cabinet, Yamaha E30, Technics SX-EX60, Yamaha EL70, Technics KN7000 and others.
 

Online Pianoman

Re: Watch this and tell me if I really need a Genos sound.
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2017, 04:05:42 AM »
Hi Pianoman,

As previously stated, you are an extremely talented musician and technical guru. I replied to one of your threads yesterday which I can no longer find.  It concerned the state of your keyboard and how you look after it.

I am not concerned about the state of your keyboard because basically it is none of my business and you use it primarily as a work tool.

However, I noticed that you said that some of the electronic stuff could be seen under the broken Exit button. That bit did concern me because I fear for your own safety.

Please make sure that you are not exposing yourself to the risk of electric shock. At least make sure of that. I know that you put yourself and family as your priority. We appreciate you and whatever keyboard you play for us in whatever condition itís in as long as itís safe for you to play.

Should you eventually buy a Genos, I wish you many happy hours and much enjoyment playing it as with your present board.

Kindest regards

Trevor (MINKYCATS)

Hello again Trevor.

The thread is still there. I just renamed it to "Pianoman - Dire Straits medley  on 3T.".
I removed the reference to my Mama out of the thread.
I Just love my Mama too much man.
Can't stop mentioning her wherever I go.
I responded and thanked  you for your advice, saying I'll be careful and that I don't use the button anymore because it doesn't work.

PS: I've  also put up a new thread called "Pianoman - I Want To Break Free - and Radio Gaga on T3.

Many thanks again.

Best Regards,
Pianoman.