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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2017, 04:37:41 AM »
Think people are clutching at straws now. What does it matter what a keyboards name is as long as it is a first class arranger instrument.

Offline vbdx66

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2017, 04:56:31 AM »
Hi Eileen,

Well I think that people are so impatient to see, hear and put their hands on the new keyboard that they must find something to bid their time... it's like trying to find a surname for an unborn child...

Anyway in a few weeks' time we will know for sure :-)

Best Regards,

Vinciane
Past keyboards: PSR E313, PSR E413, PSR E433, PSR S550, DGX 640, upright piano.
Now: DGX 650
 

Offline Oldden

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2017, 05:28:19 AM »
Hi Eileen,

I thinks it's all part of the fun of thinking about something new. But I do think that Yamaha as well as most companies do put a lot of effort into getting names right for their products, but sometimes get it wrong. Several years ago Rolls Royce were going to name their new car The Silver Mist, not a good car name for sales in Germany, they had to change it. Perhaps GENOS means something somewhere.
Apologies for German readers.

Oldden

Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2017, 06:37:57 AM »
I am spending time playing and enjoying the keyboard I have at present Tyros 5. I am also busy doing things like backing up my Hard Drive and saving various things to USB. In a couple of weeks time I believe selected dealers will be invited to a private demonstration and things then should start to filter through. Till then I shall carry on playing my keyboard.

Offline Joe H

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2017, 06:58:48 AM »
Don't be picking on Eileen... you know she is right. Go play your keyboards and enjoy what you've got at hand. 

 ;)

Joe H
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Offline Oldden

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2017, 08:16:12 AM »
I for one am not picking on Eileen, she is most defiantly right. When something new comes along it doesn't mean that what you have got is obsolete. I don't think it matters what instrument new or old or type of music you play as long as you enjoy it. If you never want to upgrade that's great, how many people would love to own an old Hammond Organ or a Rhodes or Wurlitzer electric piano and they came out many years ago, I know space and money permitting I would.
Oldden
 

Offline browzer

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2017, 09:58:49 AM »
Perhaps the acronym for GENOS is

Generates
Excessive
Nervousness
Over 
Speculation

 :) :) :)

Ronnie

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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2017, 02:15:54 PM »
Pick on me all you like if it helps pass the time for you  :) :) ;)

Offline Hermann

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2017, 02:55:56 PM »
Yes I think you could be right. GENOS may well be an acronym. The OS part standing for operating system. Not long to wait now.
Oldden

or rather "open system"?

Offline vbdx66

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2017, 03:58:44 PM »
GENerator Of Stress...  8) 8) 8)

Vinciane.
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Offline TwinTyros

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2017, 10:40:55 PM »
What about my opinion and also in my case;
Genos = GeNOs
Regards,
Marcel
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM »
Hi Marcel,

Maybe you will change your mind after the new kb has been introduced.😉
Who knows ...

Take care, my friend !
Best regards, Jeff
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Offline TwinTyros

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2017, 12:01:28 AM »
Hello Jeff,

well I do not think I will change again from keyboard nor I will consider to do, due to the fact I received my new Wersi OAX 1 keyboard  :) yesterday after selling my (twin) Tyros 5-61 XL (with big loss).  :o

After a period of 3,5 years having a Yamaha key, I decided to return to the place and mark (Wersi) where still my heart is for more than about 35 years. I never had any disappointment in Wersi comparing to my short period of playing Yamaha T4 & T5.

Although I do not own any Yamaha key any more, I will keep following my forum friends just because I like to read all your posting.

BTW, there's still one Yamaha part in my room, that's the MG10XU Mixer.  ;D
Regards,
Marcel
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2017, 03:54:32 AM »
Hi Marcel,

I feel very sorry you have decided to leave the Yami fold.😥

Congratulations with your brand new Wersi.
A fantastic keyboard ! 😊

Does it recognize Yamaha Styles ? What about Yami's SA2 voices ?

What about the internal preset Wersi Styles ?
Are they usable for our Yamis or ... is conversion a must ?

Are you willing to upload these Wersi styles, if extraction is possible ?
Many members would be very happy and grateful, I guess.😅

Finally I may hope you will stay a member of this Forum !
Cross my fingers. 😉

Looking forward to reading your reply soon. Thanks !

Best regards, Jeff
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 04:07:36 AM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline Bryan Leech

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2017, 02:01:12 PM »
From an inside source (can't break a confidential issue), definitely Genos. Apparently Tyros-backward compatible, but substantial user differences have been implied in that it will be better-suited for live performance for starters. When - anyone's guess, but it seems to be well on the way. Sorry this doesn't add much and reads so much like a cheap rumour; it isn't.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2017, 02:10:29 PM by Bryan Leech »
 
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Offline Joe H

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2017, 02:56:30 PM »
... Apparently Tyros-backward compatible, but substantial user differences have been implied in that it will be better-suited for live performance...

Most likely some major improvements (and added functions) over the S970 live performance features, and with the quality of the Tyros brand still  in tact.

Joe H
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2017, 08:35:20 PM »
Hi Bryan,

Thank you very much for your feedback.
I would be very grateful to know you better.😄
Plse advise.

Many thanks, Jeff
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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2017, 03:43:53 AM »
Well in about three weeks time we should hear some news on what is actually on the new keyboard and know what we are talking about.
  I know it is expected to be shown at the Yamaha Club meeting here in the UK at the end of October and Martin will probably demonstrate it.
 
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2017, 04:44:02 AM »
Thank you very much for your info, Eileen !  :)

What worries me is the present exchange price of the Tyros ( 2,3,4 and 5 ) family.
I am afraid the "good old days " are really over.
Hopefully I am wrong.


Jeff
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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2017, 10:21:14 AM »
Well Jeff,
 By not waiting to long to change keyboards you don't lose as much money. Mind you I have never though of it as losing money because I have had three good years of enjoyment from it. It has earned me money and been my hobby. All hobbies cost you money so for about 15 a week which is less than two cinema tickets I am quite happy.

Offline Hermann

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2017, 12:20:08 AM »
Hey together,

this link may be of interest to you: https://www.achamilton.co.uk/Tyros5/Tyros6.htm

Hermann.
 

Offline voodoo

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2017, 12:53:19 AM »
Well Jeff,
 By not waiting to long to change keyboards you don't lose as much money. Mind you I have never though of it as losing money because I have had three good years of enjoyment from it. It has earned me money and been my hobby. All hobbies cost you money so for about 15 a week which is less than two cinema tickets I am quite happy.

I payed 500 to upgrade from S950 to S970, and I am happy about this. I sold the S950 before the S970 was available, so the price did not sink too much. You can do this every 3 or 4 years. That's not too much to have an up to date professional keyboard.
Yamaha Genos (finally)
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2017, 01:33:18 AM »
Well done, Uli ! Congratulations ! :)

Let us hope T5 owners will also be so happy with their exchange - or selling price.

Jeff
 
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Offline Joe H

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #73 on: September 06, 2017, 08:03:21 AM »
I expect there will be a VERY slight price increase or maybe even a price reduction for the next arranger.

 ;)

Joe H
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Offline TwinTyros

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #74 on: September 06, 2017, 07:43:13 PM »
Dealers in Holland expect an increase of about 200 to 300

Do you mean an increase at the average resellerprice at this moment or at the price by introducing from the the T5?
Regards,
Marcel
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #75 on: September 06, 2017, 09:56:49 PM »
Hello Friends.

These topics remind me of that old song:

"Que sera sera . . . . the future is not ours to see . . . . "  something like that.

Greetings.

(i mean this in a good way  . . . )
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2017, 12:18:15 AM »
Hi Marcel,

Bachus is talking about the original T5 price list unit price, I guess.

Jeff
« Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 12:20:38 AM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline Eli1256

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2017, 02:11:58 AM »
Hello,

I am the opinion, that one should not overthrow in the matter " Genos "!

I started with a Tyros 1 and I remember, that the Tyros 2 was technically a mega jump!

Therefore, I believe that Yamaha will begin now, similary the tyros-series, with Genos 1, and there, I think, caution is appropriate!

Possibly the change to model Genos 2 will be again a sensational quantum leap in 2-3 years!

Therefore, you should perhaps wait for the second model series and also, where is the problem?
With a Tyros 4 or 5 one is served excellently and the 2-3 years to wait, until the Genos series is more mature, that can be done!

This is the same with cars so - you should always wait for the second model series!

But of course - my personal opinion - everyone should act so, that he finds his happiness!

Kind greetings

Eli

Offline vbdx66

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #78 on: September 08, 2017, 02:32:32 AM »
Hi Eli,

I completely agree with you on this matter, there is no hurry.

Of course, there might be som new functions in the Genos which will make it difficult for some Tyros users to wait another 2-3 years to wait for a Genos 2...

A good compromise IMHO would be to wait about six months after the new board has appeared on the market before buying it, since it is the time necessary to get accurate feedback from the first users. Also if there are some bugs (like the screen issues with the PSR S910), in six months time they will have been identified and, hopefully, have found a solution.

Anyway it will be nice to listen to/watch the first Genos demos, either live for those lucky enough to have the opportunity to attend a demonstration, or on video for the rest of us.  8)

Best Regards,

Vinciane
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Now: DGX 650
 
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Offline ash1

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #79 on: September 08, 2017, 03:19:15 AM »
i think the new keyboard will be called tyros 6 not genos  ;)
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #80 on: September 08, 2017, 04:12:11 AM »
Hi Vinciane,

Not the S910 but the S900 had screen problems, remember ?

BTW Yamaha will not be happy if one should wait another 6 months before buying the Genos. ;)

Jeff
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 04:15:14 AM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2017, 04:19:56 AM »
Hi Ash1,

Why do you think it will be called T6 instead of Genos ?
Like most of us I believe the Tyros period is over.

Jeff
DAWS MAC & WIN
 

Offline vbdx66

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2017, 04:49:04 AM »
Hi Jeff,

Yes, you are right of course, it was  the S910. ;)

For Yamaha's sake, I am sure some early birds will want to buy the Genos as soon as possible. On the other hand, people who can afford to wait for some time might possibly avoid some problems, esp. since it will be a completely new line of keyboards.

Best Regards,

Vinciane.
Past keyboards: PSR E313, PSR E413, PSR E433, PSR S550, DGX 640, upright piano.
Now: DGX 650
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2017, 05:13:47 AM »
It all depends on members positions. The longer you keep a keyboard the less you get for it. As for glitches that all keyboards get from time to time once Yamaha are aware of these they are put right very quickly.
 
We must also remember that it is people who buy these keyboards early that discover some of these problems and are able to report them quickly.

Offline ash1

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2017, 05:44:28 AM »
Hi Jeff
jealousy lol no only kidding i think it will be genos  i was just messing
yamaha are the best and i think they will deliver another great keyboard
and they will probably quickly update any glitches if any surface
i have a new tyros 5 and im content with that

 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #85 on: September 08, 2017, 05:52:01 AM »
Hi Vinciane,

Sorry but it was the S900 and not the S910.😀
And I think Eileen is right.
Jeff
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 05:53:59 AM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #86 on: September 08, 2017, 06:00:32 AM »
Hi Ash1,

If your T5 is new I believe it is wise not to upgrade for the time being.😄
The T5 is a great pro keyboard ! Wished I had one.😍

Enjoy it, Jeff
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Offline ash1

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #87 on: September 08, 2017, 06:29:51 AM »
hi Jeff yes i upgraded from the tyros 4 to the 5 i think the 5 is were i will be for the next few years
i lose hours on the tyros 5  ;D
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for all the people getting the new Genos that yamaha  deliver what people are asking for
I'm sure they wont disappoint

« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 06:32:18 AM by ash1 »
 

Offline Heidrun

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2017, 05:36:42 AM »
Hello folks,

@ Jeff: the presentation lasted in Berlin and was very sucessful


@Maarten: The first instrument I learned was piano. Keyboard was added later... :-)
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2017, 06:43:03 AM »
Thank you for your feedback, Heidrun. :)

Very much appreciated, Jeff
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Offline Heidrun

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #90 on: September 21, 2017, 09:10:15 AM »
It was only a small one, Jeff... ;-)
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #91 on: September 21, 2017, 10:53:32 AM »
Better small than nothing !  ;)

Did somebody give a Genos demonstration in Berlin ? Plse advise. Thanks !
On September 28, 2017 the Genos will be played/shown by Martin Harris in NYC / USA.

Best regards, Jeff
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Offline Dromeus

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #92 on: September 21, 2017, 12:17:36 PM »
Better small than nothing !  ;)
YEAAAAAAAAHHH and isn't it the truth  8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfnAD9bFyGE
« Last Edit: September 21, 2017, 12:19:24 PM by Dromeus »
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Offline Heidrun

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #93 on: September 21, 2017, 01:23:31 PM »
It was only the presentation for the best European dealers, Jeff.
And they are forced to keep the GENOS secrets until Yamaha gives information to the public! ;-)

Kind regards, Heidrun
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #94 on: September 21, 2017, 01:51:51 PM »
Thank you very much, Heidrun !😄

That is all I wanna know.
We are aware of the NDA for all involved.😻

Strange no demo in Europe ( approx 400 dealers ) and a demo ( by Martin Harris, UK ) in the US ( New York ) next week. 🐸

Kind regards, Jeff
« Last Edit: September 21, 2017, 01:53:40 PM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline Heidrun

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #95 on: September 21, 2017, 01:55:14 PM »
Yes, we are all excited, Jeff.
Soon the next video will be released!
Just before two minutes I discovered how Yamaha keyboards are build together:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFV5xbfbV1U

It's shown to kids, but nevertheless interesting?

Kind regards, Heidrun



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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #96 on: September 22, 2017, 12:34:18 AM »
Thank you Heidrun for the link. Very interesting to see a Keyboard made from start to finish. Looking at all the high tech machinery and staff you can begin to realise where the end cost comes in.

Offline Heidrun

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #97 on: September 22, 2017, 01:08:14 AM »
Yes Eileen,

for me it was very interesting, too.

Watching these prodution steps one gets another relationship to our keyboards...

Kind regards, Heidrun
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #98 on: September 22, 2017, 01:46:06 AM »
Thank you for this video, Heidrun.
Very interesting. :)

This video seems to be made in Yami's manufactury in Indonesia where also the S970 is manufactured.

The local selling prices in Indonesia are much, much lower than ours though.  ;)


Best wishes, Jeff
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Offline Heidrun

Re: Genos or Tyros 6
« Reply #99 on: September 22, 2017, 01:57:26 AM »
I could understand the reason to offer them cheaper there, Jeff... ;-)

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