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Offline Bachus

Most usefull packs
« on: December 30, 2018, 09:30:31 PM »
If you had to choose 2 packs with a brand new Genos..
Which 2 would add most for you? 
(And why)
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Offline Pino

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 01:00:54 AM »
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Good question Bachus

I often wandered if there was a list somewhere of the most popular pack.

‘Church & Christmas’ is mentioned a lot so maybe that is the most popular,

Pino
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Offline Joe H

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 03:31:00 AM »
I think it is just a matter of personal preference and personal tastes in music.  That's like asking what's your favorite food!

 :)

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

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Offline soundphase

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 09:10:05 AM »
The sound from SA2 Pan flute expansion is far better than the native pan flute sound for me.
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 10:53:09 AM »
I think it is just a matter of personal preference and personal tastes in music.  That's like asking what's your favorite food!

 :)

Joe H

Thats why i asked the why? Question. Which gives a lot more insight to the answer.

So the sa2 pan flutes seem worth it..
No clue why people like the church and christmass one

Could be a season thing, but also a religious one
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Offline Wouter1972

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 12:01:39 PM »
The premium panflutes (Zamfir, James Last etc)  as well as the premium female voices (i.e. Once upon a time in the West) are really nice. Since I purchased them I exchange them in my most of my registrations.

As far as a complete package, I really like the Synth Package because of the ‘80s sounds. Big 80s fan. :D

Wouter
Current gear: Tyros5XL, Komplete Kontrol Mk2 S49, Ableton Live
Former instruments: PSR3000, Tyros2, Tyros3, Tyros4
 

Offline DerekA

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2018, 01:59:22 PM »
The Church Organ pack is very good. Even though it's marketed for the PSR-S series, it loads into YEM so will work with Tyros and Genos.
Tyros5
 

Offline pjd

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2018, 02:48:35 PM »
The Church Organ pack is very good. Even though it's marketed for the PSR-S series, it loads into YEM so will work with Tyros and Genos.

+1

The Church Organ pack offers more variety including "plainer" organ registrations from which layers can be built. The Genos (and T5) factory pipe organs are good, but the registrations are too thick for congregational singing (AKA hymn playing). I definitely use this pack a lot; the other packs, not so much.

All the best for the new year -- pj

Offline soundphase

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2019, 10:20:52 AM »
A lot of CMS Sounddesign sounds are very very good and free.

http://www.cms-sounddesign.de/page101.html

here are for me the best :
- Symstrings 1 & 2
- Trp Sect (from the last christmas gift)
- Horn Sect (from the last christmas gift)
-Trom Sect (from the last christmas gift)
- Solo Violin (from the last christmas gift)
- Violins 1 (from the last christmas gift)
- Violas (from the last christmas gift)
- Cellos (from the last christmas gift)
- Orch Choir (from the last christmas gift)
- Orch Pizz (from the last christmas gift)
- Celesta (from the last christmas gift)
- Tub Bells (from the last christmas gift)

Last christmas gift page : http://www.cms-sounddesign.de/page154.html
 
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Offline acparker

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2019, 01:46:22 PM »
The Church Organ pack is very good. Even though it's marketed for the PSR-S series, it loads into YEM so will work with Tyros and Genos.

Umm, unless I'm missing something, no it doesn't.  Not on the Genos.  When I tried it, the voices wouldn't load.  The rhythms, registrations and the midi would load, but not the voices.

Adam
 

Offline acparker

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2019, 01:47:26 PM »
The Church Organ pack is very good. Even though it's marketed for the PSR-S series, it loads into YEM so will work with Tyros and Genos.

Umm, unless I'm missing something, no it doesn't.  Not on the Genos.  When I tried it, the voices wouldn't load.  The rhythms, registrations and the midi would load, but not the voices.

Adam
 

Offline pjd

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2019, 06:40:03 PM »
Umm, unless I'm missing something, no it doesn't.  Not on the Genos.  When I tried it, the voices wouldn't load.  The rhythms, registrations and the midi would load, but not the voices.

Adam

Hi Adam --

I have the full Church Organ pack running on Genos. I remember importing the S970 pack into YEM, generating a PPI file, and then installing the PPI file on Genos. Perhaps the S970 pack must be targeted for Genos by producing a Genos PPI?

When you say "the voices wouldn't load," what did you experience? Seems like we ought to be able to get you running...

All the best -- pj
 

Offline acparker

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 01:10:44 AM »
Thanks in advance for your help, pjd.

I think I figured out the problem.  The pack I have is for an older Psr keyboard that I had ... the S670.  I'm willing to bet that it's to old to be compatible.

Anyway, what happens is, when I load it into the YEM, all the Instrument selections have a lock icon on them.  When I select the Genos, (I load directly via Wifi), they all become greyed out.

I would consider buying the up-to-date PSR S970 (975?) version if I were absolutely, positively, 100% sure they would work. $100.00US is a lot of cash to risk.

Adam
 

Offline Joe H

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 02:38:55 AM »
With Yamaha Voice packs the Voices are "locked" so we cannot edited them.  I think that is a silly approach by Yamaha.  My guess is that they don't want us to see how Yamaha sound designers program the Preset and pack Voices. And if we could edit them, we could share the modified Voice files freely, which Yamaha would not want us to do.

 ;)

Joe H
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Offline EileenL

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 01:18:18 PM »
The country pack is very good as is the US and home organs if you like Klaus sounds. Celtic s also very good.

Offline pjd

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2019, 02:19:42 PM »
The pack I have is for an older Psr keyboard that I had ... the S670.  I'm willing to bet that it's to old to be compatible.

I would consider buying the up-to-date PSR S970 (975?) version if I were absolutely, positively, 100% sure they would work. $100.00US is a lot of cash to risk.

Hi Adam --

I totally agree on both points. It may be a case of technical TMI, but the S670 uses a different tone generator (SWX08) than the Genos (SWP70).

I had a similar issue. My first pack was for the S950 -- totally incompatible -- and the YEP pack could not be converted by YEM. I called Yamaha Musicsoft and they graciously upgraded the S950 pack to S970 at no cost. Before shelling out money, maybe call Yamaha Musicsoft? Maybe they will upgrade the pack for less than $100?

At the risk of being redundant, the S970 pack is running on my Genos and installation was a no-brainer.

Hope this helps! I'm a cheerleader for this pack.  :D

-- pj

 

Offline Francesco Massa

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2019, 11:59:02 AM »
I read all the discussion, but I don't understand properly: so, PSR-S970/975 Premium Packs are perfectly compatible with Genos? If so, why Yamaha Music Soft make them not available for Genos?
I'm interested on the Indian / China packs, but I would like to be sure of compatibility. Has anyone (who does NOT own S970) already "risked"?
Thank you

Francesco
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Offline valimaties

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2019, 12:21:40 PM »
I read all the discussion, but I don't understand properly: so, PSR-S970/975 Premium Packs are perfectly compatible with Genos? If so, why Yamaha Music Soft make them not available for Genos?
I'm interested on the Indian / China packs, but I would like to be sure of compatibility. Has anyone (who does NOT own S970) already "risked"?
Thank you

Francesco

As I see on Yamaha Music Site, Indian 2 Voice & Style Expansion Pack and China Voice & Style Expansion Pack are made only for PSR-S keyboards. But with Genos selected as chosen instrument, it will list all compatible models with each price on right part of screen.
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All the best, from Romania

Vali Maties - Genos
 

Offline zionip

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2019, 02:22:34 PM »
I read all the discussion, but I don't understand properly: so, PSR-S970/975 Premium Packs are perfectly compatible with Genos? If so, why Yamaha Music Soft make them not available for Genos?
I'm interested on the Indian / China packs, but I would like to be sure of compatibility. Has anyone (who does NOT own S970) already "risked"?
Thank you

Francesco

Hi Francesco,

At one point of time, I owned both PSR-S970 and Genos (currently only owning Genos).   I was able to install all the voice and style packs , including "China", and various packs for Far East for PSR-S970 on Genos because these 2 keyboards use the same SWP70 tone generator.

Yamaha MusicSoft uses your chosen keyboard model to filter the available voice and style expansion packs.  If you choose PSR-S970/S975 as your keyboard model, then you can see all these available voice and style expansion packs.  After you purchased the packs, you will get links to download the various PPF files to be imported into YEM.  If you choose "Genos" as your keyboard model, the available voice and style expansion packs for PSR-S970/S975 will not show up.

Thanks,
Paul
 

Offline DerekA

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2019, 02:54:31 PM »
I was able to install all the voice and style packs , including "China", and various packs for Far East for PSR-S970 on Genos because these 2 keyboards use the same SWP70 tone generator.

I'm not sure that's entirely true ... I installed the Church pack which I bought for the S770 onto my T5. Does the T5 use SWP70? I thought it was SWP51. PJD will know!!
Tyros5
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2019, 08:16:34 PM »
I'm not sure that's entirely true ... I installed the Church pack which I bought for the S770 onto my T5. Does the T5 use SWP70? I thought it was SWP51. PJD will know!!

T5 indeed uses SWP51,

The S770 and S970 where the first to use the new SWP70, even before the Montage series..
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Offline pjd

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2019, 08:06:23 PM »
Hi --

Yep, I agree with Bachus. The Tyros 5 employs two SWP51L tone generator ICs.

The content in the Church pack began life on the S750/S950, which are SWP51L-based like the Tyros 5. Same is true of the Church Organ pack, which I used on S950 and loved it. (TMI: The original pack format was YEP.)

Only Yamaha really know the details of voice compatibility. Compatibility information is stored in the UVF files. Preset waveforms belong to the parent product (e.g., Genos or Tyros 5). Voice definitions may also contain a "chip compatibility" property: NO_RESTRICTION, SWP50_FAMILY, SWX02, SWX08, SWP70. It may be that an SWP50_FAMILY voice can play on SWP70 since the SWP70 is (most likely) a superset of SWP51L. Again, only Yamaha knows.

Hope this helps in some small way -- pj
« Last Edit: January 18, 2019, 08:08:09 PM by pjd »
 

Offline Francesco Massa

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2019, 08:52:40 AM »
I've imported into YEM the Vietnamese and Indonesian free packs of PSR-S970 without problems (also without S970 instrument ID file), and seems to be ready to transfer on Genos. These packs are in .PPF format however, are China / Indian packs on Yamahamusicsoft in .PPF too?
Thanks a lot

Francesco
« Last Edit: March 15, 2019, 08:20:44 PM by Francesco Massa »
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Offline Moontom

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 07:35:08 PM »
Nice thread....

here's a related ?: how is the Vintage Keyboard expansion? looking for nice crisp Rhodes and I've developed a few w/ Genos panel voices...wondering if the expansion pack gets closer to the tactile "bite" of a Rhodes or wurli.

thanks in advance...
 

Offline DerekA

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2019, 08:18:34 PM »
Yes I'd also like to hear any views about the vintage keyboard pack, it looks interesting, but is it sufficiently different from the onboard voices?
Tyros5
 

Offline Moontom

Re: Most usefull packs
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2019, 05:55:33 PM »
Really?

Still hoping for insight on the Yamaha Vintage Keyboard expansion...somebody must have tried in Genos....thanks!