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Turned My Genos Into A Tonewheel Organ Beast!
KeyboardByBiggs:
First off, thanks to Soryt for inspiring this transformation for me!
Being trained on Hammond organs since I was five-years-old, the organ sound in any keyboard I own is important to me. One the reasons I bought my Genos was the concept of having that sound as part of the package, as well as the physical drawbars and an "upgraded" Leslie simulation with "grit", according to Martin Harris.
I was pretty disappointed once I got it, to say the least. You can read all kinds of feedback on this in other areas of the forum from orgain players and non-players alike.
Enough of the negatives...let's fix it!
Thanks to a video posted by Soryt, a member here, and after chatting with him a bit, everything relating to this has changed!
I bought a brand new Electro-Harmonix Lester K rotary speaker simulation pedal for $178 US. I hooked it up by sending the organ sounds out the Aux jacks to the Lester K and the output from the Lester K back into the audio input jacks, something of an FX loop.
WHAT A DIFFERENCE!
The presence, the saturation, the grit, the spaciousness, the sound of the scanner bleed and even the keyclick is there in all its glory!
If you want to bring the tonewheel goodness alive in your Genos, I highly recommend this!
You can see Soryt's demo video that got my attention here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FHdjg5A7wE
Now, for a bit of a rant; a short one I promise. :)
To me, this begs the question...in a top-of-the-line keyboard like the Genos, why did I have to do this?
This pedal is $178 US. That's RETAIL. Take away the case, the knobs, etc. and all that's left is the software controlling everything and providing the processed sound.
Yamaha engineers couldn't come up with top-notch Leslie simulation programming to put into their flagship arranger that's already on the market with other companies in a freakin' foot pedal for under $200 US retail?!
Rant over, back to playing my new beast of a B3! :)
Mikk:
Yes I tend to agree. Yamaha is a very much behind the times with technology, I think .
I use the:- Boss RT-20 on all my keyboards except Korg(no need) and am very happy with it.
Demo on You tube . you'll get the idea. comparing with a real Leslie.
Used with the famous Hammond B3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1vMLFCxwM
this might be more to your likes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwwWnefszQk
Price and desc on amazon.com
https://www.amazon.com/s?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Boss+RT-20
Price and desc on amazon.co.uk
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rt-20-Rotary-Processor-Extended-Warranty/dp/B01CZM21X4/ref=sr_1_10?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1534746807&sr=1-10&keywords=Boss+RT-20
kmspecialties:
How did you separate the organ voices out to the Lester
Bob
2112:
--- Quote from: KeyboardByBiggs on August 20, 2018, 01:43:21 AM ---To me, this begs the question...in a top-of-the-line keyboard like the Genos, why did I have to do this?
Yamaha engineers couldn't come up with top-notch Leslie simulation programming to put into their flagship arranger that's already on the market with other companies in a freakin' foot pedal for under $200 US retail?!
--- End quote ---
I know the above question was rhetorical, but I'll answer anyway.
Yamaha is deeply invested historically, emotionally and technically in the FM synthesis (Frequency Modulation).
Even for their flagship MONTAGE synthesizer product it is hard to find good information or demos about additive or subtractive synthesis. Hammond (now competing with Yamaha as Suzuki) is an additive synthesizer. Moog & Prophet are the most historically well known brand names for subtractive synthesis.
Edit: Added links to the relevant Wikipedia explanations for the people interested "Why?"
Just imagine somebody working for Yamaha trying to raise an issue of supporting competitors technology.
gerarde:
How did you get the key click with the Electro-Harmonix Lester K?
Regards,
Gerard
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