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sugarplumsss:
I spoke in person with a yamaha expert on our keyboard. It was a rushed conversation, but
I believe for my dual purpose... saving registrations for styles, and for saving MIDI songs... he recommended saving them both as registrations.
I wanted feedback from those who do as I do... using both style based performances as well as MIDI song performances on the same gig.

Is it an error for me to mix a style in the registration with a MIDI song?

I have been attempting to accomplish these saves... I am careful to uncheck song in the memory content when saving only style. I am not sure why.. but it seems more to the purpose of that registration for style only.

Anyway, I was hoping to engender discussion on this topic.

travlin-easy:
They are different animals and cannot be merged.

Gary 8)

Pino:
Same animal, can be merged and saved to registrations

Gary, as soon as you check✅ ‘Song and Style” in the Registration memory then it will merge the midi

The keyboard only understands one thing and that’s MIDI, no matter where it’s coming from.
When you press the “sync start” on the Song Control then it will pay whatever midi information is in the tracks and will “sync” along with a Style.


There are many options to saving midi and style to Registrations

1   Midi out for SongBook page turn (1 per Reg, can turn page 1,2,3 same song and back)

2   Midi out to control my Ketron SD 40 voices, (1 Voice change per Reg)

3   You can play the midi with the Style and change the chords

4   you can record a counter melody and have control over everything by
   entering the CC, eg, voice, volume, reverb, and play alone with a style.

5   import drums and a bass line from a midi file and play along with your style
   turn off tracks 10 and 11.

But there are certain rules and better if familiar with midi CC’c
Has to be the same Key, and must follow the bar numbers of the song.

Pino. 🎹

sugarplumsss:
Gary, I miss our chats. Pino, cool..
So between the Yamaha tech and Pino and Gary.. we have two opinions.
Not, absolutely not, in the spirit of politics today.. but rather in the spirit of sharing, learning, opening up to new ways of looking at things:
I would like this conversation to go further.

But before we do, let me clarify the term "merge" or merging Style and Midi song.

I think this term, merge, was misleading. I play style files as registrations  and Midi songs, independent of one another.  Pino, perhaps I misled you!

The only reason I used the term merge, is the REGISTRATION commonality between styles and Midi songs...  and the registration was the advice the Yamaha fellow ( a smart fellow ) gave. ( Again, I did not have opportunity to question him on the details of this "merging" of style and Song, as applied to live gigs.

My question kind of backs up into another area as well... you older folks know the expression  ' the knee bone is connected to the leg bone'.  The issue in the background has been gone over many times... namely how to organize songs for quickest access on live gigs, where "dead air" is not viewed favorably.

OT but related: I was thinking of a wishlist item for future Genos... and this feature would magnetic a genos' value even more so.
Imagine talking to the genos with song requests that are already loaded in??
Sorry for the divergence.

So can we open up this discussion about best way to save many styles associated with songs, and also MIDI songs?
While many of you, most of you... are not in my shoes... understand that I am approaching old age and am forced to eek out a living in music, the only profession
I am knowledgeable about.
So these factors all come to bear on this challenge of labeling and deciding best ways to store.
1. SPEED of loading songs- regardless of midi songs, or style files.
And
2. speed is connected to the smartest way to organize on T4.

DrakeM:
I got a question on this. Are you saying I can start a Midi file (to play the intro) and then flip over to the style seamlessly, and play the rest of the song using my style on my PSR-S950?



 

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