I’ve had my Genos a little over a month. Been putting about two hours a day, minimum, on it since I got it. Had my first gig with it yesterday.
Genos is different than any keyboard I’ve had in the past.......
Genos has few dedicated buttons or sliders...almost everything can be assigned. I like that feature but it can also be a bit strange.
For instance, there’s no dedicated fader button. I didn’t think about that when I set up my master registration. So, on each of the 250 songs/registrations I have done, if I want the fader function, I have to go back and set that up on each song.
In other words, there’s very few Global settings. This can be both a blessing and a curse. So far, for me, I like the assignable features so it’s more a blessing.
One thing that’s interesting...Playlist works much like Songbook on the PA4X. If I edit a song on a playlist, it refers back to the original registration. That means that a song I edit on one playlist will update on other playlists that have that song. At least that’s what it looks like now.......
I read complaints/concerns about Genos on other forums. I wonder how many of those concerns are just tied to not understanding how Genos works? ........
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Genos is different than any keyboard I’ve had in the past.
YES INDEEDGenos has few dedicated buttons or sliders...that feature can also be a bit strange.
For instance, there are no “global” settings, not for the bender, not for the "fade in fade out". I didn’t think about that when I set up my registration . So, on each registration I have done, if I want
functions in my way I have to go back and set that up on each registration bank. (button)
YES AND A LOT OF WORK.
In other words, there’s very few Global settings. This can be both a blessing and a curse. So far, for me, it has not been a blessing.
Regarding Genos vocal processing, Yamaha must have updated it because it sounds as good or better than any dedicated voice processor I have e.g. both the rack mount Helicon Voice Works Plus and Digitech Vocalist Live Pro and the Roland VP 7. I use Bob = Louis Armstrong on Genos and simultaneously 4 part harmony on the Digitech (two microphones) so Louis can say something to the singers and they will respond in 4 part harmony.
Voices and styles are excellent. You can route the wind instruments through AUX 1 and blow them with an analogue blow controller with both breath pressure controlled volume and filter, so they sound 99 % like the real thing.
It is quite clear that many problems users have are due to not understanding how Genos works.
Genos is not Tyros 6, Those coming from the Tyros line presume things work in the same way. They do not. It is obvious Yamaha put thought into this keyboard. But Genos - like Tyros 5 - still needs a lot of updates. There are in IMHO illogical paths in the software (which are not bugs and I am sure will be rectified by updates in case enough buyers feel they are illiogical) But there seems to be problems that are not “a matter of opinion”.
I am not software-savy enough to judge whether they are software or hardware related. On 2 specimens I have thoroughly tested with the importer here, the memory function of for instance registry banks is not reliable.
Here is what we did (in case anyone knows a better way, PLEASE let us know)
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We started by assigning the functions you need for that bank to the sliders and also set the “fade in fade out function” and “the pitch-bender” settings (these settings must be done first) We saved these “global” settings to each registry button.
2
We then memorize intros, endings, styles, voices, tempo and volume of each item on the 10 buttons.
To make sure everything sounds the way we want it to sound on stage we played the registry. Everyting was fine.
3
We saved the registry bank under the name “Delilah 95 F” (95 meaning tempo and F the key)
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Then we played another set up and after that to make quite sure Delilah was put into memory correctly , we called up that registry. There it was, perfect.
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After a week - I used the Genos many times since we memorized Delilah – I call up the Delilah registry bank at a gig.
I was panic-stricken: it started with a chacha rythm, the volume was ear deafening and the tempo 160 ! I was sure I had chosen the wrong registry file, not Delilah. I had not. The registry was corrupted!
After this incident we have checked the registry banks which can easily be done on the page that is dedicated to that. And indeed a lot of the registry files are corrupted, no intro, wrong style, wrong tempo, wrong volume, wrong slider assignment. The same problems were present on the second Genos.
Anyone experienced this problem, anyone aware of a remedy ?
P L E A S E H E L PCheers
Kaarlo