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Offline guitpic1

Genos and PA4X
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:25:48 AM »
Iíve owned and frequently gigged with the 61 key PA4X since 2016.  Itís an outstanding keyboard.

That said, if I were choosing today between a (76 key) PA4X and the Genos..I would choose the Genos.  Hereís why.

(1). Voices.  The 4X has very good voices but, for my use, weak on guitars and a few other voices.  From what Iíve heard so far, Genos has excellent voices across the board.

(2). Styles.  The 4X originally blew me away with its live sound but was missing style types I liked to use.  To my ears, Genos styles are just as lively now and there are many more of the type I use.

(3). 9 in. touchscreen on Genos...just spoiles a person.

(4). Weight.  quite a difference for me.  Genos significantly lighter.

(5).  I really like the Korg Songbook but Iím finding that playlist works as well.

(6).  Editing.  Iíve found that editing capabilities have improved and are easier for me to use than some of the editing options on the 4X.

(7). Price.  If you look around(thereís someone that contributes here), prices of the 4X and Genos are comparable. 

All this said, the PA4X is an outstanding arranger.  Had the Genos not come along Iíd be gigging with it today and happy with it.  In many ways, I wish I hadnít played the Genos as the last thing I had planned on doing was buying another keyboard.  🤑

I believe considering construction, the PA4X is a bit better built.  Also, the PA4X has deep editing capabilities if you have the time and inclination to learn how to use them.

My $.02 worth.
guitpic1

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Offline DonM

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2018, 03:47:03 AM »
If you can find a Genos for the price of a PA4X, you'd better jump on it.  Or maybe you aren't finding the best price for the Korg? 
DonM
 

Offline guitpic1

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2018, 03:55:15 AM »
If you can find a Genos for the price of a PA4X, you'd better jump on it.  Or maybe you aren't finding the best price for the Korg?

Iím guessing the 76 key Korg is less expensive, but how much I donít know.  But if my choice was a 61 key arranger, Iíd just keep playing the 4X.  The 76 key Korg is a bit more weight than I want.

And there are other considerations...see original post.

The 4X is a great arranger...if you have one..wonderful.  Just donít go spending time with a Genos.

😊
« Last Edit: February 11, 2018, 03:57:53 AM by guitpic1 »
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Genos, S970, Casio PX 560, Bose S1 Pro(x2)JBL Eon One, SSV.3, DXR10
 

Offline wmidsgw

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 05:49:10 AM »
Here in the UK the pa4x is still £1000 cheaper than the Genos (I have both)....That's a lot of  Dollars !!

Gordon
 

Offline guitpic1

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2018, 07:53:14 PM »
Here in the UK the pa4x is still £1000 cheaper than the Genos (I have both)....That's a lot of  Dollars !!

Gordon

Here in the US, Iím thinking, even with discounts, the 76 key PA4X is about $1,000 less than Genos.

So I had that wrong.  Sorry.

🤨
guitpic1

Genos, S970, Casio PX 560, Bose S1 Pro(x2)JBL Eon One, SSV.3, DXR10
 

Offline panos

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 09:06:08 PM »
Prices in Greece(Europe) right now.

YAMAHA Genos Digital Workstation 4.199,00 Ä  (5,141.00 $)
KORG PA4X 76 ARRANGER             3.562,00 Ä  (4,361.00 $)
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/13201278/Yamaha-Genos.html
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/7482917/Korg-Pa4x-76-Arranger-Workstation.html
« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 01:46:37 AM by panos »
 

Offline mcbrown

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 01:19:08 AM »
Prices in Australian dollars

PA4x 76 RRP $6500 - can get between $5000 and $5500.
PaAS speakers RRP $799 - can get for around $699

Genos 76 RRP $6999 - can get for around $6800
GNS-MS01 RRP $599 - can get for around $520

T5 76 RRP $7995 - can get for around $6295 (same price with or without speakers)

Murray
« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 01:21:03 AM by mcbrown »
Genos + MS01 spkrs, TouchMix 30 Dig Mixer, Fender Strat & Tele, Music Man 210 75 guitar amp, Behringer GMX 212 Guitar amps & FCB1010, Behringer B1200D Sub & B205D f/b spkrs x 4, Boss GT-10 Guitar Fx, Roland GR-55 Guitar Synth, LD Systems MAUI 28 G2 x
 

Offline lordspudz

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2018, 06:23:29 AM »
I brought a Pa4X last June and have just swapped it for a Genos.  Best thing I ever did.  The Pa4x is a great sounding keyboard and the styles are very good but in many areas the Genos is far better.  The Guitars for instance are much better than the Pa4Xís and itís easier to use; more logical.
So much music.....So little time!!  :-)
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2018, 07:11:53 AM »
In the USA . . .  anyone paying full MSRP price of Genos is paying way too much . . . .

Contact AudioWorks and you will see that the price differential between Genos and Korg Pax4 is minimal   . . . .

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline DonM

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 07:53:58 AM »
In the USA . . .  anyone paying full MSRP price of Genos is paying way too much . . . .

Contact AudioWorks and you will see that the price differential between Genos and Korg Pax4 is minimal   . . . .

thanks
Not if you get his price for the Korg also!  :)
DonM
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2018, 01:11:05 PM »
Not if you get his price for the Korg also!  :)

You have a point, there . . . . .

Have a great day/night.     
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline guitpic1

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2018, 02:27:19 AM »
I brought a Pa4X last June and have just swapped it for a Genos.  Best thing I ever did.  The Pa4x is a great sounding keyboard and the styles are very good but in many areas the Genos is far better.  The Guitars for instance are much better than the Pa4Xís and itís easier to use; more logical.

I would agree. 

guitpic1

Genos, S970, Casio PX 560, Bose S1 Pro(x2)JBL Eon One, SSV.3, DXR10
 

Offline guitpic1

Re: Genos and PA4X
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 02:31:18 AM »
Not if you get his price for the Korg also!  :)

Anyway you cut it, the Genos is going to run a $1,000 or more than the PA4X.

Genos is wonderful but my take is that Korg prices are very competitive and Yamaha prices are at a premium on higher end products.
guitpic1

Genos, S970, Casio PX 560, Bose S1 Pro(x2)JBL Eon One, SSV.3, DXR10