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Style Creator Assembly and DSPs

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jsb1999:
It appears that using the style creator assembly function, the DSP information of the source style track is not copied to the destination track.
This seems like a strange oversight since the DSP contributes so much to the sound of the style tracks.

Does StyleMagic solve this problem?

valimaties:

--- Quote from: jsb1999 on January 27, 2018, 05:30:00 PM ---It appears that using the style creator assembly function, the DSP information of the source style track is not copied to the destination track.
This seems like a strange oversight since the DSP contributes so much to the sound of the style tracks.

Does StyleMagic solve this problem?

--- End quote ---

From my practice, only the chorus and reverb DSPs can be saved in style. The DSPs from "Effect" pages are stored only in registrations, not in styles... This happens in OTS too (OTS are stored in styles, so it is normal not saving there, but only in registrations). I prefer save the "Effects" DSPs (third DSP) in style, not in registration... The third can be more than one :) , but for now (and I don't think it could be made this wish by Yamaha, because they don't want to and don't care) it is not possible.

Regards,
Vali

valimaties:
PS: If you look inside a style (use a midi software, StyleMagic YA, or what do you have), the messages (SysEx, Tempo, Measure, DSPs, and a couple of others) are stored in SInt part of style. SInt part is the general settings for style. So, all settings you made to a style, like DSP, tempo, measure are stored in SInt part, not in Mains or fills or other style parts... Other parts can store Program Change (a voice), different controls as volumes, expression, pitch bend controls, ...
When you copy a channel from another style you practically copy only the information between markers in midi file of style... so cannot copy the SInt controls or messages... This is the Yamaha Style Concept, is different from other brands and in the same time, much more elementary  :(

For example, in Korg's Style Recorder, you can make Variation 1 (Main A) on 4/4 and tempo of 125, with all settings saved in this variation, and Variation 2 (Main B) with 2/4 (or whatever) and tempo of 140... Practically, each part of style on Korg is like a full style (with only a single part) on Yamaha, concatenated :D 

Regards,
Vali

jsb1999:
I see. So is there a way to copy a DSP from one style to another, other than writing down all of the parameters and re-entering them?

jwyvern:
If you are considering copying Yamaha's settings there is probably little to do other than re-assign the appropriate preset dsp and make sure the Send is correct. While I have not looked across all Genos styles (too much work!)  Yamaha generally seem to use preset  values (many categories eg. Uni Comp will already have a number of presets with Detail values designed to cater for different conditions).
So the extra chore of writing down and re-tweaking for those may not be needed. OTOH if a user has edited and saved designer settings in the dsp's they "will"  need to be!  :)

John

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