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USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 ?
« on: January 25, 2018, 03:28:16 PM »
   Is there any advantage to using a USB 3.0 thumb drive with the  Genos rather than USB2.0?  TIA

 

Offline panos

Re: USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 ?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 03:44:15 PM »
usb 3.0 transfers data 10 times(10x) faster than usb 2.0
You better use a usb that Yamaha suggests for your instrument in any case.

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/7/1130977/genos_en_om_c0.pdf

for usb on Genos see pages 110-111

Compatible USB devices
• USB flash drive
Other USB devices such as a USB hub, computer keyboard
or mouse cannot be used.
The instrument does not necessarily support all commercially
available USB devices. Yamaha cannot guarantee
operation of USB devices that you purchase. Before purchasing
a USB device for use with this instrument, please
visit the following web page:

http://download.yamaha.com/
Although USB devices 1.1 to 3.0 can be used on this
instrument, the amount of time for saving to or loading
from the USB device may differ depending on the type of
data or the status of the instrument.

« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 03:55:39 PM by panos »
 

Offline StuartR

Re: USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 ?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2018, 06:00:28 PM »
   Is there any advantage to using a USB 3.0 thumb drive with the  Genos rather than USB2.0?  TIA

Unfortunately, no. While the Genos will support a USB 3 flash drive (because they are backward-compatible), the Genos still only has USB 2 drives. Most of the time that's not a problem as the file quantities and sizes we need to move to and from the keyboard are small. But when you try and do a USB-based pack install and its over a GB, you'll notice that it takes a while. In their defense, most of the slowness is probably due to the Genos memory write speed.
 

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Re: USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 ?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2018, 08:18:04 PM »
   Is there any advantage to using a USB 3.0 thumb drive with the  Genos rather than USB2.0?  TIA

The Genos has a USB 2.0 interface but a compatible USB 3.0 thumb drive will work on the Genos although with a maximum transfer rate of up to 480 Mbps (Megabits) which is equal to 60 MB/s (Megabytes) per second. To take better advantage of the Genos USB 2.0 interface you can use a faster rated thumb drive. For instance, I use a SanDisk Extreme USB 3.0 thumb drive to transfer files to and from the Genos. Many thumb drives might have a transfer rate of up to 60 MB/s (the throughput limit of USB 2.0) but real world experience is perhaps much slower in many cases. The SanDisk Extreme on the other hand is rated at 95 MB/s and it consistently achieves those numbers and thereby is able to take full advantage of the USB 2.0 standard of up to 60 MB/s. So my recommendation is to use a fast thumb drive in order to help speed up the process of transferring files to and from the Genos.

Mike   
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 01:24:42 PM by keynote »
 

Offline StuartR

Re: USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 ?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2018, 08:50:23 PM »
The Genos has a USB 2.0 interface but a compatible USB 3.0 thumb drive will work on the Genos although with a maximum transfer rate of up to 480 Mbps (Megabits) which is equal to 60 MB/s (Megabytes) per second. To take better advantage of the Genos USB 2.0 interface you can use a faster rated thumb drive. For instance, I use a SanDisk Extreme USB 3.0 thumb drive to transfer files to and from the Genos. It is one of the fastest rated thumb drives currently on the market. Many thumb drives might have a transfer rate of up to 60 MB/s (the throughput limit of USB 2.0) but real world experience is perhaps much slower in many cases. The SanDisk Extreme on the other hand is rated at 95 MB/s and it consistently achieves those numbers and thereby is able to take full advantage of the USB 2.0 standard of up to 60 MB/s. So my recommendation is to use a fast thumb drive in order to help speed up the process of transferring files to and from the Genos.

Mike
Excellent point, Mike.
 

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Re: USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 ?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2018, 09:58:35 PM »
   Thank you all for your interesting feedback.  Lots to learn on this forum.  Reg