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Offline frankmusik

Device holder for genos
« on: December 17, 2017, 07:32:35 PM »
Dear  genos Players waiting for the device holder....

Here they are...  made in Germany in solid Aluminium Quality...



http://www.ebay.de/itm/YAMAHA-Device-Holder-Halter-Universell-fur-YAMAHA-GENOS-Keyboard/192398712408?hash=item2ccbdb5e58:g:qiMAAOSwI8laM-Pb

I think eBay will Translate next days and put them in all eBay platforms..

Greetings from Germany
Frank


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« Last Edit: December 17, 2017, 07:51:26 PM by frankmusik »
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Offline Lee Batchelor

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 09:45:29 PM »
That's exciting, Frank! Thanks for sharing. I'll think about that in about 2 years when Canada finally gets a decent shipment of Genos keyboards....LOL  ;D
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Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 10:54:40 PM »
Frank,
can this device hold an iPad Pro 12.9 inches.   if so, that is great. I want two of these.

Also, i want the Genos screen protector.

I looked at these two items on your ebay link.  Unfortunately, i do not understand German.   If there is an option to change the language, i cannot find it for same reason.

Is there an English link and can we buy in USA . . . . ?   

thanks in advance.

AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 


Offline EileenL

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 11:48:41 PM »
I use my I pad pro on the music stand as I also occasionally still use sheet music. Genos dose not have those extra holes like Tyros 5 did so to use the device you can also use the music stand.

Offline zionip

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 12:50:46 AM »
There are only 4 such device slots at the back of Genos and Tyros, the middle 2 slots for the music stand, the outer pair of slots are for the Genos / Tyros speakers.

The device holders mentioned in this thread require additional hardware to hold objects like iPad Pro / tablet, external monitor etc - more flexible but definitely a lot costlier than the no-cost Genos music stand.

Thanks,
Paul
 

Offline ugawoga

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 11:15:42 AM »
Hi

I reckon Eileen would make a top entepaneur on Dragons Den :o

"Who needs and expensive bit of plastic $46 or 35 approx when you have a music stand that the Ipad would comfortably sit on"!! 8)

Nahh!!!!!! "I'm OUT"!!!! ;D
 
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Offline MisterGenos

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 07:25:33 PM »
Hallo Frank ,

I order this one for my"n screen thanks


Mister Genos

 

Offline ugawoga

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 11:18:32 PM »
Hi

I just went down to Wickes and got a flat length of wood with a woodgrain finish and screwed four legs on It and it is used to stand My 21 Inch Music reader  HP21 slate on.
Only cost 10 and a little savvy!! "Hey presto"!! ;D

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 01:14:52 AM »
This device is a great idea. Maybe a bit on the expensive side. 

Certainly, more expensive than the no-cost Genos music stand.  However, when you need to carry stuff, this smaller device is much easier than the music stand or the mic stand.   I would prefer to carry this small device to connect my iPad.

If you do not need to carry around, then probably not needed.

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline frankmusik

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2017, 08:25:30 PM »
Sorry for my delay...
the holder is for small Things like iPad ... some use it also for Mikrophone arm....

A lot of Musician in Europe dont use scoreholder Or speakers... so they have 4 Poss. To use.
Greetings frank

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Offline frankmusik

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2018, 04:58:41 AM »
Hi al, we tested with iPad Pro also.
Depend on iPad holder it works fine.
Next days I do on eBay with k&m iPad holder and a 3D holder.

First I tried with a bolt (14cm) but was tooooo heavy

Greetings frank
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Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2018, 05:02:28 PM »
Frank
thanks a lot for the update.

I am very interested and if it works with iPad Pro 12.9inches  in both modes Portrait and Landscape (vertical and horizontal) i will definitely want it.   Please let me know when it will be available in eBay with the K&M holder to order.

Have a great day.  Greetings
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline Oldden

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2018, 01:20:10 PM »
Hi,
I have a Yamaha L7 stand for my keyboard. On the back supporting brace there is a tapped hole which could be used to hold a bracket for a tablet. Or just use a G-clamp affair on the brace tube. Local diy shop might have something.
Oldden
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2018, 09:04:43 AM »

Frank ...  Hi

Any update on the Device Holder stock? ...  Still 2 weeks?

 Thx .. Al.
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2018, 04:23:01 AM »
... some use it also for Mikrophone arm....


Hi Frank,

1
nice to see you also on this site, not only in Germany.  I do have this item, but I do not dare use it as a microphone boom holder for my very light Behriger condensor.
Do you really think the bushings inside Genos will be sturdy enough not to brake when some "angeheiterter" man grabs the boom in order not to fall. I now have he boom fixed to the keyboard stand, so if anything brakes it is no big issue.

2
There was this discussion on the German site as to whether reg files can be transferred or not. You wrote, in case the set up was ok,  yes. We now know that those who divided their Tyros hard disk into 4 partitions like recommended on the German site years ago (Robert Mueller)  are those who have a problem which seems to be very difficult to solve. Have you encountered and solved that problem in Germany ?

regards
Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland
The year you were born is unimportant as long as you can still play your keyboard and don't have to change the treble setting
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2018, 07:10:19 AM »

Kaarlo ..


Hi. I am about to test one on my Genos. I will use the mounting with a short 125mm extension tube by K&M.
I will use just to hold small device, as I use Shure SM58, which is really too heavy, and leverage is too great
I'm sure the mount will be ok for small device, but NOT heavy, like mics. It would be ok, but if you catch/knock it, damage could be done.
As an Engineer, I looked at the construction of case in the outer mounting area each side. It is very strong here, as it is on a thick section radius corner and load is spread through bracket/2 pins. There may also be metal/rubber bushing inside, but I have not looked.
I will report back when I tried mine!
I am waiting to order from Thomann, as MusikCity is too slow to UK.

Best Wishes ...

Al. 👍😊
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 
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Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2018, 07:21:21 AM »
Has anybody tested this device holder with an iPad Pro 12.9 inches in both portrait (vertical) and landscape (horizontal) modes . . . . ?

Currently, i have my iPad Pro 12.9 inches on a mic stand and if this device can hold the larger iPad pro, it would be great to get rid of the mic holder when gigging . . .  one less thing to transport . . .

thanks in advance.
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2018, 07:37:23 AM »

  0.7Kg (1.6lbs) .. Will easily hold the weight, but the 'leverage' is the issue.
 The pins and holes wont break, that just leaves the case area or the iPad mounting.

 Maybe Frank tried!

Al.
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2018, 08:08:16 PM »

This one Al?  ... but Genos version of it? ...

https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyros_device_holder_i_pad_set.htm#

Al.
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2018, 02:33:01 AM »
This one Al?  ... but Genos version of it? ...

https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyros_device_holder_i_pad_set.htm#

Al.

This one would be perfect.   I sent an email to vendor asking if they have it for Genos.  Hope they respond soon. 

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2018, 03:35:45 AM »

They are due with Thomann any time now.
I buy my Konig & Meyer (K&M) kit from them now, as Service is good, and fast postage.

Cheers!  Al.
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2018, 04:23:09 AM »
today I got this response from Thomann

"Thank you for your request. The device holder will be available in our onlineshop in a few days. It also will offer the possibility to attach the ipad to your genos. Depending on what kind of iPad you use, you will need a Base Tube"

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2018, 05:46:04 AM »

This is the short 'tube' I have. Actually a bar.
It's really the tube for a table mic stand.  130mm x 18mm.

Al.

😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2018, 06:03:38 AM »
Kaarlo ..


 will use the mounting with a short 125mm extension tube by K&M.
I use Shure SM58, which is really too heavy, and leverage is too great
I'm sure the mount will be ok for small device, but NOT heavy, like mics. It would be ok, but if you catch/knock it, damage could be done.
As an Engineer, I looked at the construction of case in the outer mounting area each side. It is very strong here, as it is on a thick section radius corner and load is spread through bracket/2 pins. There may also be metal/rubber bushing inside, but I have not looked.
I will report back when I tried mine!
I am waiting to order from Thomann, as MusikCity is too slow to UK.

Best Wishes ...

Al. 👍😊

I very much agree with you. Mic booms that someone can "run into"  are going to brake the attachment inside the Genos.   I did trial mount a boom and you could feel the attaching point was not sturdy enough. For mounting the Roland V 7 it seems ok.

cheers

Kaarlo
The year you were born is unimportant as long as you can still play your keyboard and don't have to change the treble setting
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 08:43:04 PM »
Hi ..

Yes, you have to be careful when the mounting is in use. It may be possible with iPad to use a 'buffer' as extra support. It's good that the mounting position is on a radius, which makes it quite strong area.

The holder is today in stock at Thomann .de
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm?ref=msg_a_2
Previously, a 'set' has been available for Tyros5 at a cost-saving. This is not available option (yet!)
I'll report back when I have mine.

Al.
🎹😊
« Last Edit: February 21, 2018, 08:44:52 PM by AlBags »
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2018, 05:30:39 AM »

The holder is today in stock at Thomann .de
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm?ref=msg_a_2
Previously, a 'set' has been available for Tyros5 at a cost-saving. This is not available option (yet!)
I'll report back when I have mine.

Al.
🎹😊

Thanks so much for the notice.   I am planning on ordering this one.   Except that i still need to figure out what else i need in addition to this little device.

My understanding is that this device will go into the Genos holes.   My concern is that i have the largest iPad Pro 12.9.   It seems to me that to have this large ipad in portrait (vertical) and landscape (horizontal) mode, there should be sufficient space and probably need the additional tube.

I already have this iPad holder
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1266135-REG/auray_ipu_105_universal_large_tablet.html

So, not sure if i can use this one or need to buy a special one . . .

Need to figure out the set that will work out . . . . they should offer one set already including everything . . . .

Maybe i will write them again.

have a great day.

AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2018, 07:29:04 PM »

Hi Al!

I'll talk to you later about this!

Al.
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2018, 01:35:17 AM »
This is the short 'tube' I have. Actually a bar.
It's really the tube for a table mic stand.  130mm x 18mm.

Al.
I am trying to determine the thread measurements on this short tube . . . . the thread that will connect to the actual iPad holder.

https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_7232000155.htm

Is it a male 3/8 or 5/8  ?   

I currently have an iPad holder that is a female 5/8.    If the tube is 3/8 i will probably need an additional adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.   

thanks in advance.

« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 01:37:10 AM by Al Ram »
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline valimaties

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2018, 02:32:29 AM »
I am trying to determine the thread measurements on this short tube . . . . the thread that will connect to the actual iPad holder.

https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_7232000155.htm

Is it a male 3/8 or 5/8  ?   

I currently have an iPad holder that is a female 5/8.    If the tube is 3/8 i will probably need an additional adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.   

thanks in advance.

It is compatible with K&M 232... and on this page they say this is 3/8
https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_232bk.htm?o=0&search=1519669727

Regards, Vali
______________________________________________
All the best, from Romania

Vali Maties - Genos
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2018, 02:59:00 AM »
Vali

thanks a lot for your prompt response. 

I believe that you are 100% right.   Althought the tube included in the K&M 232 that you mentioned has a length of 175mm and the tube i was looking at has a lenght of 130mm but the thread should be the same at 3/8.    That means i would need an adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.

This is what i am considering ordering to adapt an iPad Pro 12.9 inches to the Genos.   I currently have the iPad on a microphone stand but want to place the iPad on Genos.  That would eliminate the need to carry an additional microphone stand.

I currently have this iPad holder which as a 5/8 female thread. 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333976-REG/auray_ipu_108_universal_tablet_holder.html

To place the iPad directly on the Genos, It looks like i would need to buy the following:

1. Genos Device holder
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm

2. Short tube
https://m.thomann.de/intl/km_7232000155.htm?i11l=en_GB%3AUS.EUR%3AUSD

3. 3/8 to 5/8 adapter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Male-to-3-8-Female-Microphone-Mic-Stand-Adapter-Thread-Screw-W5T6-/222638277743

Thanks again.  Have a great day.
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline valimaties

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2018, 05:54:53 AM »
Vali

thanks a lot for your prompt response. 

I believe that you are 100% right.   Althought the tube included in the K&M 232 that you mentioned has a length of 175mm and the tube i was looking at has a lenght of 130mm but the thread should be the same at 3/8.    That means i would need an adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.

This is what i am considering ordering to adapt an iPad Pro 12.9 inches to the Genos.   I currently have the iPad on a microphone stand but want to place the iPad on Genos.  That would eliminate the need to carry an additional microphone stand.

I currently have this iPad holder which as a 5/8 female thread. 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333976-REG/auray_ipu_108_universal_tablet_holder.html

To place the iPad directly on the Genos, It looks like i would need to buy the following:

1. Genos Device holder
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm

2. Short tube
https://m.thomann.de/intl/km_7232000155.htm?i11l=en_GB%3AUS.EUR%3AUSD

3. 3/8 to 5/8 adapter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Male-to-3-8-Female-Microphone-Mic-Stand-Adapter-Thread-Screw-W5T6-/222638277743

Thanks again.  Have a great day.

Hi
I have this mic holder from Shure...


I think it is the same thread screw that you want! you don't have one? Or you already use it?
What I want to say is now all mic holders come with this little thread screw!  ::)

Regards,
Vali
______________________________________________
All the best, from Romania

Vali Maties - Genos
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2018, 06:02:12 AM »
Vali

Great idea !!!   I have a couple of Shure mics and the mic holders that came with it.    Tonight (it is 2pm here) I will check to see if they came with the adapters.

thanks again.

AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline valimaties

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2018, 06:26:23 AM »
Vali

Great idea !!!   I have a couple of Shure mics and the mic holders that came with it.    Tonight (it is 2pm here) I will check to see if they came with the adapters.

thanks again.

Great! :)
(Here is 00:25) :D No far away :)))

Regards,
Vali
______________________________________________
All the best, from Romania

Vali Maties - Genos
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2018, 06:35:20 AM »
Dear  genos Players waiting for the device holder....

Here they are...  made in Germany in solid Aluminium Quality...



http://www.ebay.de/itm/YAMAHA-Device-Holder-Halter-Universell-fur-YAMAHA-GENOS-Keyboard/192398712408?hash=item2ccbdb5e58:g:qiMAAOSwI8laM-Pb

I think eBay will Translate next days and put them in all eBay platforms..

Greetings from Germany
Frank


Ps: for psr Tutorial Member Order via pm Cheaper :-)

Frank

So, is this already available to purchase in USA . . . ?  the last updates indicated 2 weeks. 

Also, has it been tested with iPad Pro 12.9 inches both in portrait and landscape modes . . . . ?

I believe there is also an additional 'joint' piece'

Really want to buy it . . . .

thanks
AL
San Diego/Tijuana
 

Offline ugawoga

Re: Device holder for genos
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2018, 12:13:15 AM »
Where does the battery go??? ;D