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« on: July 26, 2011, 12:09:19 AM »

I am about to upgrade my PSR 413 and 910 / 710 is too expensive for my level of talent.

I am looking at a old psr 2100 or 1100 but can see that a new 550 (or coming psr 650) is only a few hundred $ more.
More sweet and cool and live sounds in 550 and usb stick for styles, 2100 has a mic. 1100 is a little cheaper has less sounds less memory but would probably be much better then my 413...

Has any one some experience for those keyboards and can give some andvice on what to choose and + / - ?

Is sounds much better on 550?
2100 / 1100 was the 910/710 of its time and might have more functions?
a 1100 is avalible near me, but I am afraid I will regret the buy since it doesent look to good on tech spec.


In sweden prices are
2100 - 450 euro
1100 - 320 euro
550  - 600 euro (new)
650 - ?? not here yet
900 1100 euro

one euro is about 1,5 dollar

there is not a lot of used ones on market one or two wihtin 150 km

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 06:50:09 AM »

Chris,

I had the 2100 and it was a wonderful sounding keyboard.
It has the Vpcal Harmony feature and I thouht it was very good - It did take sme tweaking to get the best sound.

One of our members used it to make a recording of his singing voice with no accompaniment and it sounded fantastic.
The following link will take you to Dan's performer age - he did this using a PSR-3000, but it has the exact same VH section as the 2100.
http://psrtutorial.com/song/forum09/big741.html

A new 550 will have the advantage of being unused and under warranty - this can be very important too!  Shocked

You'll get more input on this so wait and read here for a day or two before you make a decision.

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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 09:05:04 AM »

Dear Chris

I had a 2100 once, I used it for about seven years until last December when i bought a 910. The 2100 served me well but i dd have mother board issues that could only be solved by spending far too much money, so i opted to replace it instead of fixing it

I don't mean to frighten you, but a 2100 is old technology conpared to today's keyboards, so be aware that you get what you pay for.

The 2100 is worth what they are asking and so is the 1100. If you don't sing then you don't need a 2100.
Either way, there several thousand styles on the net that you can get for free for both the 1100 and the 2100. I don"t know if you can get third party styles for the 550.

If at all possible look for a more recent used keyboard like a 3000, 900 or even a Tyros i,2 or 3.
 
Good luck, Hope you get what you want

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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 11:48:48 AM »

Thanks, wish I had some of Dan's voice.

I think that a 550 can load most styles, it have 3 intros and so on. My 413 can load some of them (but only one at the time) and it has only one intro and one alternation. I dont know how much 550 differs from 710/910 in details of styles?

It is a Tyros 1 avalible for 750 euro wiht 80gb harddrive, but I have a feeling that it's quite old and that it shows on the sound.

I had a Yamaha HS-4 organ (still have it) when it came out new, same price as Tyros 4 is today, but in the late 80's  Shocked, it was top of the line then (exept HS-8). It had 8kb memory cards for saving registrations and built in sequenser and synthersiser. You could also record registrationdata to a casseterecorder like the old commadore computors...
But today it is outclassed by the little cheap 413..

Where I want to come is that some times newer "smaller" keyboards is better then a little older top of the line...
But I dont know where to draw the line here.

I found a performer that used a psr 2000 and sounds seems a little "flat" compared wiht performers wiht psr 900, The one wiht psr 2100 was a little better but still not like the 900.  I dont know if it is the recording or if it is the keyboard?

What problems can I look for if buying a used?


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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 12:24:04 PM »

Chris,

If you can afford the 900, get it above all the others you have mentioned.

First off - it will have USB connection and ability to us USB flash memory stick.
Those older boards all use floppy disks and that technology is slow and "old" and unreliable.

The 900 will have the Mega voices and great styles too.

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 11:39:31 PM »

Hi Chris!

Chris,

If you can afford the 900, get it above all the others you have mentioned.
Bill G


I've upgraded from PSR E-413 to PSR 3000. The 3k was - and still remains - a great keyboard and I love it, but I think the S900 it's the next step to make, for almost the same money.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 03:06:37 AM »

Yes a 900 would be greate!
But out of budget.

The 550 is where I can stretch wihout getting a mad wife Wink

My concern is that the 1100 / 2100 is a few years older the the 413 that I have and that it sounds less good then what I already have.
I get a lot more gizmos but the sound is in the end what counts.

I found the MP3 section and sat all night trying to figure out what model sounds good enuch for me, T4 is noticible better even for me but 3000 is also real good, not sure about 2100... But recording set up can make the different, I figure the some one wiht a better board has better recording equipment  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 04:52:03 AM »

ChristerLun,
If you really want to get your wife mad  Angry Angry, just get a "Tyros 4"
Of course it will set you back few $thousand Wink not counting speakers and ram module if you wish.
Anyway the other boards have on board speakers and keep that in mind also and Tyros not.
Always taking a chance getting something used unless you kind of know the reference of the person or people know them through word.
Don't under estimate your talent as we all have levels and starting points and failure trying is of no shame; but out right quitting is.
Id probably go for a 650 new for a few more dollars then the wife wont stay too mad Angry at you.

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 05:56:37 PM »

Hi again, I spent a few hours more listening to the mp3 archive. Damn there is some talent here on the forum, some are really really good!

I found that the T1 really sounds great, and the different between 2100 and tyros 1 seems like a whole new level, the 3000 also sounds a lot better then 2100. I even believe that my 413 might sound better, but again recording quality can make a huge difference, and 413 is live in good headphones.

Has any of you heard the 2100/1100 and some  psr 3000 or greater live? How bad does the old one really sounds?

What about T1 vs 900? the T1 available is cheaper then 900, when it have a 80gb hdd, do I suffer from floppy disk drawback?

Right now it feels like psr 1100 or T1 och new psr 550 (or 650 if price i same), 1100 because the price is right and it can load more styles then my 413, and more possibility's. The other ones because I don't want to have to change again soon.

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I've upgraded from PSR E-413 to PSR 3000.
s_cristi: How does 413 sound vs 3000? Is it a biiiiiig different in the voices and styles that 413 has or is it mostly more possibility's?

Sorry for not being able to take some quick decisions... Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 12:15:25 AM »

Sorry for not being able to take some quick decisions... Undecided

You don't have to. It's always better to wait and choose what's the best for you.

The PSR 3000 is truly amazing.  The voices and styles are great and easily customizable (PSR E-413 is a toy when comparing the styles of 3K).
Even it's a little bit 'outdated' when comparing it to the sounds of S700/S900 or S710/S910, I wouldn't give it away easily.
Checkout the PSR 3000 and the S700  Wink

LE+PS: I hate the menu of S550/S650.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 04:46:45 AM »

Waiting and learning about what you want instead of just getting something usually is a good thing
There is nothing wrong with a 3000 and still is a good sounding keyboard.
A new S910 might be nice though!

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 12:45:41 PM »

Well, I have searched and read the whole internet about keyboards now, and liesend to kind of all music made of psr 1100, 2100,1500, 3000, 900, 910 and tyros 1,2,3,4 that is available on psrtutorial and youtube Wink
I decided that a psr 3000 i a really good "compromise" between money and sound.

So today I found one at a music store across the country and called them and came to a deal, they will ship it tomorrow!  Grin

They got it from a old man, it have a small scratch on one side otherwise it was like new they said... 3 months warranty.  900 dollar.
Found one 100$ cheaper, but then I'd have to drive across the country spending more on gas.

Let's hope that i comes home safe by the end of the week, and that wife don't stay mad too long Cool

Thanks for all good advice
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2011, 01:52:07 PM »

ChristerLun,

The wife will be good after she gets the new shoes.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You're going to love the 3000 - that was a very good choice.  Cool

Looking forward to your report after you receive the keyboard and maybe a song or two too.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »

I just got my psr-3000 hooked up (well actualy 3 hours ago, gave it a test run  Grin)  Just have to say that my 413 that sounded good to me is a toy when comparing, and I only pressed some styles almost on random and then finding a song to play to it.
What a lift!  Its gona be a long night Wink  My son played it for the first hour, he was realy exited over the sounds and all. He would not let me get near it Cry

I just love it soo far! (But will have to try buy wife shoes tomorrow Roll Eyes )

Thanks for all advices, will get back for more in psr-3000 section there is a lot to learn!

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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 01:48:56 PM »

Great to learn you have the 3000 up and running.  Cool

Looks like you are going to be standing in line to play it though.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Your wife will love it too after she gets those new shoes tomorrow.  Wink

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