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Offline spiro13

XGlite Voices
« on: October 16, 2010, 10:35:31 AM »
I have a PSRe423. The XGlite voices are softer and sound inferior to the regular voices. However, there are many more of them. Are there any Keyboard adjustments that should be made when using these voices or is there a situation when the should be used?

Thanks

Tony
 

tnicoson

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Re: XGlite Voices
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 05:33:19 PM »
Tony

All of the GM and XG Lite and most of the XG and GS voices are single element (single sample) sounds in order to conserve polyphony, mainly for song sequencing.  If you have a 64 voice keyboard and are playing one voice that is single element, then you have 64 voice effective polyphony, but if you are playing a two element sound, then the effective polyphony drops to 32.  You can see, that if you layer a two element piano voice and a two element string voice, your effective polyphony drops to 16.  At this rate, with midi backing tracks for a full orchestra, you can very quickly run out of available polyphony, so the above systems stuck mostly to single element sounds to avoid this.  Many of the "native" or "front panel" voices of your keyboard are multi-element sounds developed to sound richer and more realistic than the older single element sounds, but even the single element "native" voices will still sound better because they used the latest technology available when your keyboard was designed, while GM, GS, XG, and XG Lite voices are a throwback of at least a decade or two.  They were included merely to keep your keyboard backward compatible with standard midi files designed to use those voice systems.

There is probably not much you can do to enhance your XG Lite voices.  I would save them for sequencing midi backing tracks (and then only if you run into polyphony problems) and use the "native" voices for your lead sounds.

I can't help but wonder if this is, at least in part, inherent in the E423.  My PSR-3000 has GM, GS, and XG voice sets, and I have a lot of midi files that use them.  Even though they don't have the richness and realism of the 3k's "native" voices, they really don't sound all that bad.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ted
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Offline foondoon

Re: XGlite Voices
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 10:58:24 AM »
I do wonder why Yamaha does not explain why there are regular voices and XG lite voices with the same voice names in the owner's manual.
Doug
PSR-740
 

Offline SciNote

Re: XGlite Voices
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016, 11:35:06 AM »
I have a PSR-E433, and I noticed the same thing.  On the E433, one thing I found is that many of the XGLite voices are preset at an absurdly low volume level -- like maybe 45 on a scale that goes to 127.  So while it is true that these voices usually won't sound as rich as the main voices, you can enhance them greatly by boosting their volume, and perhaps adding some reverb and chorusing.  And while there are some repeats of main panel voices, there are plenty of unique useful voices as well.

One that can be useful is piano and strings.  As a panel voice, it uses main and dual voices.  But what if you want piano and strings for the left side of a split keyboard where dual voice is not available?  You can use the XGLite voice.
Bob
Yamaha PSR-E433
Yamaha PSR-520
 

Offline SciNote

Re: XGlite Voices
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016, 03:58:07 PM »
I just noticed the over-10000 views of this thread, and now see it is over six years old, lol!
Bob
Yamaha PSR-E433
Yamaha PSR-520
 

Offline Roger Brenizer

Re: XGlite Voices
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2016, 04:04:22 PM »
Very observant, SciNote...LOL!!!

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