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PSR-SX900/SX700/SX600 / Re: new Style Creator video tutorial for SX900/700
« Last post by p$manK32 on March 24, 2024, 11:16:40 PM »
At least he is trying to encourage people to have a go. 

Agree, and this video can help at least build 4 variations from scratch. I think his brief demo of how to create an intro is where a person’s songwriting abilities (or lack of) comes into play. Many probably can’t intuitively create something like that from scratch.
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PSR-SX900/SX700/SX600 / Re: new Style Creator video tutorial for SX900/700
« Last post by Bill on March 24, 2024, 10:36:49 PM »
Hmmm.. it's obvious that the author of the video knows how to create a style. But I see this video more a "see how I'm doing it" rather than "how you should start".

Hi Bogdan

Who is to say “How it should be done”. At least he is trying to encourage people to have a go. 
Bill
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Midi Song to Style Application / Re: Yamaha Midi To Style Results
« Last post by Rick D. on March 24, 2024, 07:34:17 PM »
Nova227,

Here are three I made with the new MIDI2STY creator on a Genos

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/euhzx9urvxxm91lrz6z20/h?rlkey=wak9thxj2h1qzkfv86aredrj2&dl=0

Still the Same Bob Seger,
You Belong With Me Taylor Swift
Saturday in the Park Chicago

Rick D.
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PSR-SX900/SX700/SX600 / Re: new Style Creator video tutorial for SX900/700
« Last post by p$manK32 on March 24, 2024, 07:19:38 PM »
Bogdan,
I think the video is definitely for Style Creator newbies. He did a similar video in the past with Genos. I think Leigh is just getting the viewer’s feet wet, ie. getting us familiar with the interface, menu tabs, making a simple rhythm, offering some tips & tricks, rather than real advice on how to approach making a style. I had been modifying styles in Style Creator but this video has given me some tips to begin to making one from initialization. But the point you raise does make me realize that there are very few out there who will explain for beginning arrangers how to really approach making a style, as that involves a lot more music composition concepts that may not be practical to teach, especially in a video.

Rich
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Genos - General / Re: Beginner question, how to get started
« Last post by Lefty on March 24, 2024, 06:52:37 PM »

I’m a beginner with no music expierence.
I started lessons with simply piano.
Yes, Imake progression, but it seems it is related to piano’s.

But I want to learn playing arranger keyboard.
After searching I found the lessons from Jeremy See.
I don’t know the right way to play my first songs with styles / arrangement.

Hi Scannie.  I think I understand what you are asking.  I have a few questions though, that folks will need to know before they can help.
  • What keyboard are you playing?
  • What music do you want to play?  pop, blues, Classical, etc.  Do you have a specific song in mind?
  • Can you play the chords from the C major scale?  [C, Am, Em, F, G, Dm] and can switch between them quickly?
  • Or are you using 1 finger chords on your arranger?
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A way to approach this follows.

Song selection is important for your first song on the arranger.  I'd choose a song that is:
  • You are very familiar with, and can hum the melody.
  • Transposed to the key of C so you are only playing on the white keys. 
  • in 4/4, with a tempo under 100 BPM.
  • The melody should stay within an octave.
  • Harmony can be played with triads. (3 note chords)
Forum members should be able to help you choose an appropriate song in your preferred genre.

Once you have chosen a song begin with the verse:
  • Obtain a simplified lead sheet for your song in the key of C.  Folks here can probably help with that.
  • Practice the chords in the verse with your left hand, until you can follow the lead sheet at the songs tempo.
  • Practice the melody with your right hand, until you can follow the lead sheet at the songs tempo.
  • Practice the verse slowly with both hands until you can follow the lead sheet at the songs tempo.
Now that you can follow the lead sheet at tempo with both hands, you can begin using the arranger features.  Ask forum members for some help choosing a style that works well for your song.

If necessary, ask forum members for help on your keyboard if you are having trouble getting the style to start playing when you start.  I generally start by setting the tempo at 70% of the songs' full tempo, then slowly speed it up as I get better.

Once you have the verse in muscle memory, add in the other sections (chorus, etc) until you know the whole song.

This will get you to playing a song with the most basic accompaniment.

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As you can see, it takes some time and practice before you get to using the arranger features using my method.  Perhaps others have a better way for novice players to approach this.

Best Regards, and Good Luck!
    Craig
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Yamaha Keyboards - General / Re: Arranger Style File Based Song Creation Program
« Last post by DrakeM on March 24, 2024, 05:54:12 PM »
I don't see this program does anything that our Style Creator and Midi recorder can't do. But I looks like something my nephews (who play guitar) could possible use and I will pass this program on to them.

Thanks
Drake
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Midi Song to Style Application / Re: Yamaha Midi To Style Results
« Last post by Genos! on March 24, 2024, 05:45:35 PM »
I'm not sure there is anyone here using the app, however, there are 70 or so styles on the Jjazz app forum.
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Yamaha Keyboards - General / Re: Arranger Style File Based Song Creation Program
« Last post by Genos! on March 24, 2024, 04:59:29 PM »
Perhaps to some it's interesting.

Still lots of bugs and no sync capabilities.
Thanks, but no thanks.

I don't see any features that I don't already have covered and therefore for many it's additional software without any additional benefit.

I avoid java as it's also another entry point for hackers.

I do appreciate the info as it's a work in progress. Perhaps someday it may become useful.
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Yamaha Keyboards - General / Arranger Style File Based Song Creation Program
« Last post by Nova227 on March 24, 2024, 03:09:23 PM »
 This is a very interesting backing track program based on Style Files
Some ideas and features that maybe of interest to you.
   (windows/ Mac) Jjazz Lab version 4 free open source
   
- uses standard Stye files…Yamaha, Roland, Ketron  etc. Jjazz Lab call them Rhythms for some reason.
- Chord input is via a standard chord chart, similar to the Band In A Box approach.
- input chord from keyboard / mouse , music xml / mxl file, band in the box , .cvs, Impro Visor, iReal Pro etc
- quickly make a midi  Arrangement using a style , play it back using the internal sound engine
- connect it to your psr via usb to usie your internal sound card
- once loaded into  the PSR you can edit the midi as you would any other midi file.
- very interesting approach to song Registration and style modification.

One thing that I found very useful  was for auditioning Styles. Quick and sounds good. It uses the basic file manager approach from windows / Mac .

Excellent program design with a lot of potential .


Nova227





   
   
   
   
   
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PSR-E Series / Re: F51 and similar models chords system
« Last post by rough on March 24, 2024, 02:21:25 PM »
Thanks a lot @SciNote and @overover.
Very useful information.
The chord system on the F51 turned out being exactly as you described.
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