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Title: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: computec1349 on February 21, 2018, 03:39:45 AM
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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: jerryghr on February 21, 2018, 04:43:39 AM
Don't get to excited yet.

This video is from Keyboardtips Corporation in Mexico.  I think he's having some fun with people on the internet. 

Could be another case of "Fake news".  A lot of that going on lately.

Jerryghr
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on February 21, 2018, 09:33:20 PM
Genos Styles have all been converted for most keyboards and you will find them on this forum.
 
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: jgriffin on February 22, 2018, 02:38:41 AM
Now I'm curious....have the Genos styles been converted for the T5? And if so...I would love to have the link to that information.  I had not even considered this possibility for my T5 but it sounds intriguing!
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: jgriffin on February 23, 2018, 06:48:13 PM
Answer to my question above....anyone?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: ob7914 on February 23, 2018, 10:52:22 PM
@jgriffin  :

Onacimus made a great job by converting Genos styles for PSR & Tyros
But it will never sound like a genos because of the hardware and global quality
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: jgriffin on February 24, 2018, 02:07:05 AM
Thanks ob7914....totally understand what you're saying.  I wanted to give them a try regardless and I keep looking here:  https://www.psrtutorial.com/sty/collections/onacimus.html but do not see where Genos styles have been converted for a Tyros 5.  What am I missing please?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: ob7914 on February 24, 2018, 03:30:34 AM
I hope Onacimus will read this thread to better inform you (and us)

You can already try these one .
https://www.psrtutorial.com/styles/os_Styles/S970/SMP/GtoS970.zip

(style for s970 work on tyros 5)

Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: jgriffin on February 24, 2018, 09:54:43 AM
Thanks ob7914!  I will try these soon.  Have a good evening!
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 24, 2018, 11:07:15 AM
Hello everyone, yesterday I met the Keyboardtips team. They are really working on a kind of firmware and expansion pack. It's incredible they managed to place the revo technology! in the PSR-S970, they are also working to place it in the Tyros series. We should support this type of project, instead of demeaning the work of these people.

I doubt that they can do a firmware update.  No one has been able to hack the OS.  And if they sampled the Genos Voices to reproduce them as an expansion pack they may have committed copyright infringement because these are new Voices.

I don't see any prices for the packs.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: alka on February 24, 2018, 03:20:49 PM
Take a look, in this video all time expansion/usser button is On. This not new firmware, this expansion pack with Genos voices.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Roger Brenizer on February 24, 2018, 04:09:37 PM
What video are you referring to, Alka?  Did you mean to include a link?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: ob7914 on February 24, 2018, 05:06:22 PM
I suppose he refers to the original link from the 1st message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XfZHg4BVM&lc=z23qif44jyifj30ye04t1aokguyt4hyebigvui2vosn1rk0h00410.1519145369347461

where we can see the expansion/user button On
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 24, 2018, 11:22:51 PM
I suppose he refers to the original link from the 1st message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XfZHg4BVM&lc=z23qif44jyifj30ye04t1aokguyt4hyebigvui2vosn1rk0h00410.1519145369347461

where we can see the expansion/user button On

Rather poor marketing... They say nothing in the video and provide no information on their website.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on February 25, 2018, 02:14:25 AM
Off course they can put the Genos voices in the S970/S770. I put some astonishing voices in mine.

Once you have the added voices and the modified Genos styles that use these voices, you'll end up having a mini Genos, at least style wise that is.

I will most definitely purchace this package as soon as it becomes available!
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: pschwepker on February 25, 2018, 08:39:00 AM
<<<I founded a video in youtube, that watch the styles of genos on PSR-S970, this is possible, They know something of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XfZHg4BVM&lc=z23qif44jyifj30ye04t1aokguyt4hyebigvui2vosn1rk0h00410.1519145369347461>>

 I just got the 970 after my 950 gave out. My question would be whether or not this potential firmware would void my warranty. Having seen my 950 collapse (after 7 years) makes me a bit nervous about placing anything off brand in my machine.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on February 25, 2018, 09:13:28 AM
From comments bellow video:

Rob F
Is it something, Yamaha releases or something, where Yamaha says "your decision, we aren't responsible"?

KeyboardTips Corporation

Yes, Yamaha says that the update is your decision, and you take the risk of damage on your keyboard. Because a change of no authorized firmware can damage your software.

KeyboardTips Corporation
But, our software was created with specifications of Yamaha and you can sure that this firmware is correct. Coming soon we will release a expansion pack with some sounds and styles of Genos, but now we are working and develop the tecnology Revo! on the PSR-S series.
------------------------
European Dance Expansion pack Drums work just fine for me, I don't need more :)
Anyway....

Wellcome to the forum pschwepker.
What happened to your psr and "collapsed"?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 25, 2018, 11:53:11 AM
Panos,

If you upgrade to an S770 or S970 you would be happy with the Easy Sounds Magic Dance expansion pack.  It is even better the the Euro Dance pack Voices and drum kits.

Joe H
By the way... I would be cautious about installing 3rd party firmware. If it really works I think there could be a law suit.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on February 25, 2018, 01:26:58 PM
Yes they are really nice and at a good price.
unfortunately I will stick with my s750 for now.
Still is a very good keyboard
(not that I wouldn't like the human voices and new drumkits that s775 has :D)
Other voices you can edit them as you wish but not these two. :(

And yes i agree with you Joe that buying a voice/style/pad pack from others while Yamaha musicsoft cannot cover all tastes in music is a different thing than changing/upgratting  the  firmware of your keyboard using an unnothorised third party software that could damage it.

" the update is your decision, and you take the risk of damage on your keyboard"

The keyboard is not like a computer that someone will have to reinstall the windows and all other programs again if it is something wrong with the pc.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on February 26, 2018, 12:30:55 AM
If Yamaha could have created all those stunning new styles and voices on the PSR S970 platform, but did not - do you really think that if someone else does, that Yamaha is not going to advise you NOT to install this package? Especially in the light of the difference in price between these two models...
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 26, 2018, 01:41:00 AM
If Yamaha could have created all those stunning new styles and voices on the PSR S970 platform, but did not - do you really think that if someone else does, that Yamaha is not going to advise you NOT to install this package? Especially in the light of the difference in price between these two models...

We are talking about copyrighted material reverse-engineered or copied OS.  I would never load a non-Yamaha OS in my keyboard.   Yamaha has been lenient about style sharing on this site for personal use.  But there is a difference when it comes to selling Yamaha styles and Voices.

Besides... we will probably get a lot of the Genos styles and features in the next PSR release anyway.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on February 26, 2018, 03:03:19 AM
If someone reverse engineer Porsche technology and put it in a VW Beatle, giving you the same performance, I can hardly see how that would classify as copy righted material. These guys are doing what Yamaha could/would not - my hat off to them. They are going to save me mega bucks which I do not have in any case.

I could never afford a Tyros - I always had to make do with modified styles on the latest PSR series. Now we are led to believe that new hardware was required to produce the latest Genos styles and sounds. In this competitive market, Yamaha could have produced the next version of the PSR series to have all the Genos features onboard - but they did not. a Genos cost at least seven times more than what I paid for my new PSR S770 recently. Now we find out that all of this could have been created on what was available already? Come on! Yamaha products are great, but certainly over priced. Not all can afford the latest and greatest.

Well done you Keaboardtips guys!!! This world needs more innovative teams like yours.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: DerekA on February 26, 2018, 06:44:56 AM
I see the Genos as a bit like the first class cabin on the plane.

If you make a cold analysis, then of course it's better than standard class, but it's hard to relate what you actually get to the price being charged.

However, it's the fares that the first class passengers pay that makes the profits for the company.

I would like to thank Tyros and Genos owners for their selfless generosity. If they didn't buy the TOTL arrangers, Yamaha would not be able to sell the PSR S770 - which does an awful lot that the TOTL does - at the price I can afford.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 26, 2018, 10:27:20 AM
...  Yamaha could have produced the next version of the PSR series to have all the Genos features onboard - but they did not...

You just might be surprised by what will come in next PSR arranger. They made a big investment to develop the Genos and Yamaha need to get a return on that investment, then the next PSR will inherit some of the technology built into the Genos, but we won't get all of the Genos features or qualty. We have seen it work that way many times over the years. In fact the Genos inherited some features from the PSR S970. And the S970 inherited some features from the S950.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: beykock on February 26, 2018, 02:17:27 PM
I am confused. The S770 and S970 successors will be in the shops soon.

What about the new generation called PSR S775 and S975 ?

These keyboards are the new successors.

Both new keyboards are not available for sale yet, right ?
Maybe as of April 2018 ?

As usual these new models will not be replaced before 2020 or 2021 ... or do Yamaha have other plans soon ?

Babette


Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: computec1349 on February 26, 2018, 11:49:20 PM
We are talking about copyrighted material reverse-engineered or copied OS.  I would never load a non-Yamaha OS in my keyboard.   Yamaha has been lenient about style sharing on this site for personal use.  But there is a difference when it comes to selling Yamaha styles and Voices.

Besides... we will probably get a lot of the Genos styles and features in the next PSR release anyway.

Joe H
Hello Joe H, I have news about the next models.

One more generation of keyboards is missing so we can see some of the characteristics of Genos. Martin Harris is the one who approves the new keyboards, I have communication with him and with other people from Yamaha, so we will have a mini genos until 2020-2021 at a high cost.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 27, 2018, 12:09:56 AM
Hello Joe H, I have news about the next models.

One more generation of keyboards is missing so we can see some of the characteristics of Genos. Martin Harris is the one who approves the new keyboards, I have communication with him and with other people from Yamaha, so we will have a mini genos until 2020-2021 at a high cost.

As I alluded above how things work... I wouldn't be surprised by what you have stated here.  And there could be some improvements as noted by the technically inclined folks here.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on February 27, 2018, 12:43:58 AM
Having known Martin Harris for many many years I can tell you he will not divulge anything about new products until launch time. This as we all know is Yamaha's policy and always has been. We must all be patient and wait and see what turns up on this new keyboard.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on February 27, 2018, 06:35:47 AM
Having known Martin Harris for many many years I can tell you he will not divulge anything about new products until launch time. This as we all know is Yamaha's policy and always has been. We must all be patient and wait and see what turns up on this new keyboard.

I tend to think you are correct. PJ ran into "Bad Mister" and asked him about the new arranger (Genos) and Phil's comment was something to the effect...  Oh... just you wait! He gave no details. 

Dealers don't even get an advanced notice about new products until they are announced  publicly.

 ;)

Joe H

Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on March 23, 2018, 04:33:50 AM
Why do they sell Genos's styles?
Yamaha made those styles.
If they want to make money from selling styles,they should make their own styles like other style makers do.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on March 23, 2018, 06:32:50 AM
Yes, I am just thinking that there is a big difference between selling converted Yamaha styles and sharing converted Yamaha styles.

Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: corsaman on March 30, 2018, 04:43:58 PM
Hi Guys, i'm using this pack already on my T5, and it is working perfectly :) we compared the drums with original genos Revo drums and it is almost the same :) for 60$ ??? why not :)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on March 31, 2018, 03:09:49 AM
I am sorry my friends for being the bad guy,
but if you wish to advertise your product just do it the right way:
"Hey guys! we have this pack,take a listen to it.... bla bla bla....it is legal,we are not violating Yamaha's copyrihts....bla bla bla".
Other people here advertise their programs/work too and have our respect, but they don't act like a simple member that happens to like those products.
We are no kids here dudes...c'mon!


Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on March 31, 2018, 03:40:37 AM
I am sorry my friends for being the bad guy,
but if you wish to advertise your product just do it the right way:
"Hey guys! we have this pack,take a listen to it.... bla bla bla....it is legal,we are not violating Yamaha's copyrihts....bla bla bla".
Other people here advertise their programs/work too and have our respect, but they don't act like a simple member that happens to like those products.
We are no kids here dudes...c'mon!

And I thought was the only one who thinks like that.  Yes, these guys come across like they are part of the company that is selling the pack.  If that is true then they need to come clean.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: computec1349 on March 31, 2018, 03:42:31 AM

At any time they say that it is part of the company, hahaha ??? ;)

They compañy name is Keyboardtips no, yamaha, no roland, no Casio hahah!
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on March 31, 2018, 03:47:14 AM
I'm still waiting for the details.

 ???    ???    ???

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: WolfBack on March 31, 2018, 06:15:13 AM
Let's see this matter from a costumer sight.
I'm not a S970 owner, but I won't bite the bait for this "modify" firmware.
Let's say the Yamaha's decide to give a new firmware update to the public (v1.70 -or something) then I face the big dilemma:
a. If I choose to keep my instrument up to date, then I'm just throw a 60 bucks on a trash can?
b. I keep my "modified" firmware as it is, no matter what?
c. I cross my finger for a response from a non-brand/unknown company to send me a compatible firmware?
d. Nothing from above... I decide to buy a Genos Instead!
e. I don't care to spend my money for this. I'll be wait for a compatible Genos expansion pack from MusicSoft.
 :o
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: TiasDad on April 02, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
I can't help but agree with Panos & Joe here. It seems the only poeple who have tried this have a low post count so are either new to the forums or are long time lurkers.

Personally, I see little wrong with the S970 as it is. Maybe it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the Genos but it still has plenty of oomph to keep me enthralled even after a couple of years of use. I've never owned a board that I haven't been bored with after 6 months so it it a great leap forward for me.

Sorry guys but this software isn't for me and the marketing ploy appeals even less.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: MFrost on April 03, 2018, 12:55:08 AM
I confirm, the genos pack is very good. I am still testing it, but I'm impressed. A lot of work has been put into creation this genos pack.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: hans1966 on April 03, 2018, 01:16:34 AM
Since I started in the world of keyboards, I have had several brands, but Yamaha is the one that has been most present in my life day by day. said this for me the PSR - S970, is the best workstation of arrangements, by itself it already brings an arsenal of things, among them their sounds and styles, (also brings pads, excellent quality of effects DSP, vocal harmonizer, recorder of audio) they say that it is a station of average range poque lacks the voices S.A2 and also it does not have R3. (I do not see the need) we have always looked at what we lack, including me. but every time I sit down to play with my keyboard, be it a sound, a style or creating a midi, I realize all the potential that has not yet been explored within this wonderful instrument. When I spoke at the beginning of sounds and styles, I meant that we can create our own sounds, editing them and combiner them to our liking and satisfaction. the same thing happens with the styles.  it take to dedicate many hours to this work? Of course, but in the end the results are seen. I am not in favor of buying software that is not directly from Yamaha. also because so much desire to have the sounds and styles of the Genos, when there is much to discover in the S970 ?.  are only my thoughts.     Greetings     Hans
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on April 03, 2018, 01:23:08 AM
I think this pack should be checked out by Joe or the moderators to see if it is legal. It seems funny that Yamaha would let a third party sell styles converted from Genos anyway.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 03, 2018, 03:20:00 AM
I confirm, the genos pack is very good. I am still testing it, but I'm impressed. A lot of work has been put into creation this genos pack.

Another newcomer testimonial.  How delightful!

 ;)

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on April 03, 2018, 04:09:52 AM
Some convert Yamaha styles for other models and they just share them and some they just like to sell them.pifffffff...  :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&t=629s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&t=629s)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: computec1349 on April 04, 2018, 07:22:25 AM

NOTICE:

Since many people are against the package, we share the following opinion.

1.- The package does not sell the rhythms, even they the updates that have been taking out Completely Free! They have added more converted rhythms.
2 .- What they sell is the possibility that your PSR user that you do not have the ability to buy Genos, you can play these styles and play with them.

3.- No copyright is infringed, because they are being used in Yamaha products, and a package created by Yamaha is not being marketed independently.

4.- In my opinion Joe H and Panos should encourage more people to venture into creating content for other users and allow them to experience the sounds of other keyboards.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on April 04, 2018, 08:10:39 AM
My friend,
Joe H has created a collection of multipads and have shared them on this forum for free.
So he is not discouraging no one to be creative and share or sell his work if he wishes to..

My problem is that you want people to make an unothorised update to their instrument which means that there is the possibility to damage their keyboard.
Not just play a style on their s970 and if it is not  that good,ok no big damaged done,just lost some money.

Besides that,you have deleted posts,change the name of the pack from Genos to Ghenos(no big deal,I can understand that),
there is a pack free for download on mediafire uploded in November from Vietnam if I remember well which is probably the styles of Genos, you don't go out straight to explain who you are and if there are any copyright issues or not while people asking about that.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: computec1349 on April 04, 2018, 08:32:50 AM
I think you're confused this is an expansion, not a firmware.

hahaha calm panos!
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on April 04, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
Maybe people would not need to do an “unothorised update” to their PSR S keyboards if Yamaha stopped putting the same sounds of the keyboards from 20 years ago on the PSR S line. Just look at the S970, it has the same old sweet soprano sax voice, sweet harmonica, sweet violin, etc. It's that legal? Well I think it is, but not morally correct. The PSR S970 is expandible, it has 512mb of memory to load new voices and styles but... Suprise!!! You can’t create Megavoices or Super Articulation voices. The Keyboard features a fantastic additional memory to install audio styles, but as you probably have already noticed they have not released any package with audio styles. I really love Yamaha Keyboards but I think they are not being fair to us.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 04, 2018, 09:42:14 AM

4.- In my opinion Joe H and Panos should encourage more people to venture into creating content for other users and allow them to experience the sounds of other keyboards.

As Panos has said, I have already created hundreds of custom styles and Multi Pads and shared them for free on this forum.  I have also created about 600 custom Voices... many which are better than the S970 Preset Voices and many that are unique and different from the Genos Voices... and probably better as well.   I have a database of over 4000 Voices and drum kits that I can create with different wave forms than Yamaha. When the DSPs are applied correctly they sound as good as Yamaha's Voices.

I don't think anyone on this thread is interested in your pack which By The Way... we still know nothing about.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on April 04, 2018, 09:52:54 PM
Am the only one who is confused about this pack Frank?
Is it my fault?

So,this is just a pack that can play to an s970 without any other program gets involved with the instrumants OS and nothing more.Is that right or wrong?

Can this pack work with Yem on a pc or it will work correctly ONLY if it is instralled directly to the keyboard?
Is it in PPI format or in PPF format?
If the answer is that the pack has to be installed directly to the s970,
how the user will be able to use the other packs that he may have purchased from musicsoft or other companies?
By purchasing this pack is that mean that you are unable to use any other pack at the same time?

Can you understand that the big advantage of the newer models compare to the older ones will be lost?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on April 04, 2018, 11:10:09 PM
As Panos has said, I have already created hundreds of custom styles and Multi Pads and shared them for free on this forum.  I have also created about 600 custom Voices... many which are better than the S970 Preset Voices and many that are unique and different from the Genos Voices... and probably better as well.   I have a database of over 4000 Voices and drum kits that I can create with different wave forms than Yamaha. When the DSPs are applied correctly they sound as good as Yamaha's Voices.

I don't think anyone on this thread is interested in your pack which By The Way... we still know nothing about.


Joe H


You can create MegaVoices? :O :O :O
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: computec1349 on April 04, 2018, 11:18:52 PM
He says, but I do not believe him, he's going to want us to buy his gigs disk.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: MFrost on April 05, 2018, 08:23:36 AM
It is only expansion pack not a firmware. You can not damage the instrument. You get ppf file with a lot of voices (with s. art voices) e.g cfx piano, rhodes, genos pad, strings, guitar, revo drums...and 125 styles using these sounds. You also get very well arranged audio styles. There are no audio styles in any official pack. You can combine the genos expansion pack with other packs with YEM. The voices and audio styles really occupy the most memory of pack. What else do you want to know? There is no philosophy here and there is nothing to be afraid of.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 05, 2018, 09:10:56 AM

You can create MegaVoices? :O :O :O

I could... but why bother?

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 05, 2018, 09:14:45 AM
Hi Guys, i'm using this pack already on my T5, and it is working perfectly :) we compared the drums with original genos Revo drums and it is almost the same :) for 60$ ??? why not :)

I just love how all these newcomers are posting about the so called Genos pack.

How come there are not any long-time forum members posting that they bought this pack?

 ???    ???    ???

 ;D

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on April 05, 2018, 09:28:01 AM
I could... but why bother?

Joe H



It’s imposible to create Megavoices with Yem! Please teach me how to do that?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 05, 2018, 12:43:17 PM


It’s imposible to create Megavoices with Yem! Please teach me how to do that?

Oh really... first you need the right samples, then you have to know the format and the Velocity range of each sample.  I think it is possible to do it in YEM if you understand how Yamaha creates them.  The information is in the Data List Book.

I'm recovering from an illness and am too busy with other things to give a coarse on how to create Mega Voices... maybe in a couple of years.

 ;D

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on April 05, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
From youtube comments

KeyboardTips Corporation

Hello, this firmware is a beta version, its a work of different programmers but we are worked for release on next months.

====================
From youtube comments

KeyboardTips Corporation
Yes, Yamaha says that the update is your decision, and you take the risk of damage on your keyboard. Because a change of no authorized firmware can damage your software.


KeyboardTips Corporation

But, our software was created with specifications of Yamaha and you can sure that this firmware is correct. Coming soon we will release a expansion pack with some sounds and styles of Genos, but now we are working and develop the tecnology Revo! on the PSR-S series.

===================
2nd video of the pack has been removed by the user
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVNxusLSLUg&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVNxusLSLUg&feature=youtu.be)

===================
Suddenly the pack is also working with a Tyros 5 while was a pack made for s970/s975...
Quote from: computec1349 on February 23, 2018, 22:42:56

    Hello everyone, yesterday I met the Keyboardtips team. They are really working on a kind of firmware and expansion pack. It's incredible they managed to place the revo technology! in the PSR-S970, they are also working to place it in the Tyros series. We should support this type of project, instead of demeaning the work of these people.
 
Hi Guys, i'm using this pack already on my T5, and it is working perfectly :) we compared the drums with original genos Revo drums and it is almost the same :) for 60$ ??? why not :)
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3rd video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&lc=z23jhn5aktflintc4acdp4314ampoit4jibqgpnnmwxw03c010c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&lc=z23jhn5aktflintc4acdp4314ampoit4jibqgpnnmwxw03c010c)

The guy is wearing a Yamaha T hirt but he doesn't sell any Yamaha made product.
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When they started to sell the pack was sold in a PPI format nd the user has got to sent them the n27 file from his instrument so it could work.
Then they managed as he says to make a ppf format.

So, I have purchased the pack and I'm here to share the details as I promised earlier:

First of all, Francisco - the guy who did this - is a great guy, very friendly and speaks little English, but he understands it well, dealing with him was very straightforward and easy. I basically sent him my n27 Instrument file, and he took about 1 hour to upload a 610MB (Yes 610 Mega Bytes) in a PPI format to a trusted file hosting website (WeTransfer) and I immediately downloaded it afterwards.
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1. It's in PPI format, and that means that ONLY this pack can be installed on your instrument if you choose to install it. You cannot combine it with any other content from other packs that you might have.

Francisco has promised that very soon, he will provide PPF file instead of the PPI one. And as per why he is doing a PPI file now, he says its because he uses a different tool to generate the file.

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If it is just an simple expansion pack why nobody said so from the very beginning and keep us in the darkness anyway?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on April 05, 2018, 03:15:09 PM
The pack is very interesting, contains a lot of unique stuff, for sure deserve attention, it contains instruments that use a technique that is hard to reproduce with YEM alone , i think XML stuff were modified manually to achieve these results, we can learn a lot from these files and Keyboardtips guys can teach as some new stuff(if they want).
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Pino on April 05, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
Hi panos,   keep calm

They are on our side, it’s for musicians  :)

Did you get anything free or low cost from Yamaha ?  :(

Did Yamaha ever make any programme that could edit styles or voices?


Pino
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: mheuzeroth on April 07, 2018, 12:13:53 AM
I just love how all these newcomers are posting about the so called Genos pack.

How come there are not any long-time forum members posting that they bought this pack?

 ???    ???    ???

 ;D

Joe H

I bought it. Its just a Pack,  not a modified system-update.
You dont have to be worry.
I am a longtime user.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: bernamato on April 07, 2018, 05:45:39 AM
me 2
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 07, 2018, 05:59:45 AM
I bought it. Its just a Pack,  not a modified system-update.
You dont have to be worry.
I am a longtime user.

Ten posts in the last year and a half?

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 07, 2018, 06:01:26 AM
me 2

Really?  Ten posts in ten months?

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: arvacon on April 07, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
Me 2!!!
Oh wait, it's not 1st April anymore..  :P :D 8) ::)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on April 08, 2018, 02:31:42 AM
Wow!!!

Why the hostility? Buy it or don't buy it. It's just another EXPANSION pack - and a GOOD one it is! I guarrantee no one is going to become rich in the process. I am AMAZED by the agressiveness lately. And from some that I admire over here for all their outstanding contributions? I guarrantee that if this pack could fit into my S770 that would have had a Genos like sounding PSR by now. I am already sorry I did not purchase A S970 instead! If I did I would have already posted a in depth review over here.

**** man, not all of us can afford a Genos or a Tyros and this is the second next best thing to owing one. Things sure changed a lot lately. Let's be civilized and give each other some space here. These guys did a great job - others could have done the same, yet they did it. Those styles sound very similar the the ones played direct on the Genos and we were told a new platform was required to achieve this. My hat off to these guys.

There are many other packs out there - this is just another one. Let it be...

Henni
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: arvacon on April 08, 2018, 02:45:20 AM
This topic went far because they confused us at beginning, as they were mentioning this pack as new firmware for s970 and not as expansion pack.
I guess if they were just saying we offer a new expansion pack, noone would have any problem.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on April 08, 2018, 03:46:52 AM
Wow!!!

Why the hostly? Buy it or don't buy it. It's just another EXPANSION pack - and a GOOD one it is! I guarrantee no one is going to become rich in the process. I am AMAZED by the agressiveness lately....

Henni

As a businessman for 37 years, I see this as very poor marketing.  I have not been hostile, just challenging those who are promoting the pack and give no details.  Where are the seasoned members whom we know and can trust who have bought the pack.

I'm happy with my S970 with my custom 600 additional sounds.  I wouldn't trade them for the 125 sounds comes in that pack.

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Toril S on April 08, 2018, 06:13:41 AM
I am skeptical as well.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: niayinii on April 08, 2018, 07:19:56 AM
i  have the  pack and  works  well on my  t5 as  well
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Pino on April 10, 2018, 10:59:53 AM
Wow!!!

Why the hostly? Buy it or don't buy it. It's just another EXPANSION pack - and a GOOD one it is! I guarrantee no one is going to become rich in the process. I am AMAZED by the agressiveness lately. And from some that I admire over here for all their outstanding contributions? I guarrantee that if this pack could fit into my S770 that would have had a Genos like sounding PSR by now. I am already sorry I did not purchase A S970 instead! If I did I would have already posted a in depth review over here.

**** man, not all of us can afford a Genos or a Tyros and this is the second next best thing to owing one. Things sure changed a lot lately. Let's be civilized and give each other some space here. These guys did a great job - others could have done the same, yet they did it. Those styles sound very similar the the ones played direct on the Genos and we were told a new platform was required to achieve this. My hat off to these guys.

There are many other packs out there - this is just another one. Let it be...

Henni

Well said Henni
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: larvol on May 23, 2018, 06:49:19 AM
i  have the  pack and  works  well on my  t5 as  well
Have you got the ppf file???
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Mendel on May 23, 2018, 09:21:11 AM
guys, i bought the pack didnt try it out yet. soon ill give a review 
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: larvol on May 28, 2018, 01:34:47 AM
Please someone who bought this pack already. Could you tell us the detailes of the pack?Names voices and styles.....How many.......The size in yem.....?Do they offer ppf file?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on May 28, 2018, 02:13:25 AM
Please someone who bought this pack already. Could you tell us the detailes of the pack?Names voices and styles.....How many.......The size in yem.....?Do they offer ppf file?

You are asking all the right questions. 

 ;)

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Mendel on June 02, 2018, 05:02:07 AM
hello guys,

I just got a chance to download the pack, and when I can get back online ill tell
you all details.

mendel

Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Linson on June 15, 2018, 01:20:50 AM
Mendel,
Any updates/review from the pack?
Thank you.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: RF on June 15, 2018, 07:57:26 PM
The Revo Drums feature can't be provided by an expansion pack, because PSR S 970 and 975 drum kits only respond to the note events in the way to play the sample, that is associated with the dynamic range. They do not change samples randomly. It could be possible, to add the feature by a firmware modification, but another question is, would it work. Could we be sure, that the PSR S 970 is in fact a Genos, where Yamaha disabled some functions, it would work, but otherwise?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on June 17, 2018, 07:06:54 AM
No the 970 is definitely not a Genos. These drums are brand new on Genos and have not been used anywhere else. Maybe the new S Series will have them when it comes out.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Mendel on June 18, 2018, 12:55:41 AM
Hello guys,

I only lgot added the revo drums... everything is good the only bad thing is,
The open hit hat will not close when pressing the close hit hat key, other then that the drums
Are very sounding really (obviously). When I go home I will load in all of the sounds.. and will tell
You more asap (I know u really want to know more...😀)


Mendel
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on June 18, 2018, 02:27:12 AM
Revo Drums like the vocal voices use Wave cycling which means the sounds of drums will change during play back to make them sound more realistic.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on June 18, 2018, 06:27:56 AM
guys, i bought the pack didnt try it out yet. soon ill give a review

hello guys,

I just got a chance to download the pack, and when I can get back online ill tell
you all details.

mendel

Hello guys,

I only lgot added the revo drums... everything is good the only bad thing is,
The open hit hat will not close when pressing the close hit hat key, other then that the drums
Are very sounding really (obviously). When I go home I will load in all of the sounds.. and will tell
You more asap (I know u really want to know more...😀)


Mendel

Take your time my friend.Why rushing?  :)

Unbelievable...
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Pino on June 18, 2018, 10:57:56 AM
Panos   😅
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on October 13, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
Great expansion, amazing drums , even if maybe not "revo" technology(not sure), style sound as on Genos, good value, sound of my S970 changes a lot. not all  Genos style included, but if i use a Genos style which is not included, and re-voice it using this expansion drums, it does sound great! Good value!
BTW a got ppf too.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on October 13, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Please tell me which sounds do you get?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Joe H on October 14, 2018, 01:18:30 AM
It's been eight months and still NO details on this pack. It's such a curious thing!

 ::)    :-X     :D

Joe H
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on October 14, 2018, 07:22:59 AM
I am just as curious to hear more...
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Toril S on October 14, 2018, 01:58:47 PM
Maybe in another eight months?😅
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: arvacon on October 14, 2018, 04:48:55 PM
Oh my God, that's amazing!! I bought this pack too and my s770 transformed into a Genos now!!  8) ::) :P

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Toril S on October 14, 2018, 04:54:50 PM
 :) :) :)Hope it works for my 2100 as well :) :)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on October 14, 2018, 05:11:39 PM
Please tell me which sounds do you get?

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on October 14, 2018, 05:58:05 PM
Additional content is provided to put on usb drive

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on October 15, 2018, 01:18:16 PM
Hi GaryMoore,

Tx for posting those. How about some MP3 demos please?

Kind regards,

Henni
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on October 15, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Hi GaryMoore,

Tx for posting those. How about some MP3 demos please?

Kind regards,

Henni

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on October 15, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
As a review i can say that, in my opinion its a work it is not a finished product and not a replacement for Genos but a great upgrade for S970 users.
It adds a lot of Genos drumkit sounds and some other voices, not all styles of Genos are covered. Some styles have missing OTS.
Those that have OTS even if uses psr s970 sounds have great dsp effects settings.


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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on November 03, 2018, 07:52:50 PM
As a review i can say that, in my opinion its a work it is not a finished product and not a replacement for Genos but a great upgrade for S970 users.
It adds a lot of Genos drumkit sounds and some other voices, not all styles of Genos are covered. Some styles have missing OTS.
Those that have OTS even if uses psr s970 sounds have great dsp effects settings.


The Megavoices are really Megavoices? Can you do a demo of the gospel and revo drums please?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: PSR-USR-IND on November 04, 2018, 10:56:20 AM
I hope Onacimus will read this thread to better inform you (and us)

You can already try these one .
https://www.psrtutorial.com/styles/os_Styles/S970/SMP/GtoS970.zip

(style for s970 work on tyros 5)

Now the Complete PopRock and Ballad GENOS styles are converted for TYROS5, TYROS4 with R3 Voices in OTS (Joe added R3 through his  TYROS5) and also for PSR-S970
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on November 04, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
Tx for the demos,

I would love to hear more. Wish this package could fit on my S770...

Henni
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on November 27, 2018, 11:50:02 PM
I brought the pack an hour ago, but he still doesn't send me the link for download it. I cant wait!!! I will post some demos here  :)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on November 28, 2018, 08:14:52 AM
Very anxious to listen to them my friend. Please be sure to post at least a few.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Lofty(dave) on November 30, 2018, 09:40:50 PM

 Just had a look it appears the video is not available now Lofty(Dave)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Toril S on November 30, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Oh no! Too bad. Sorry for you!
Title: This pack is amazing!
Post by: Robert Le on December 02, 2018, 10:18:20 PM

I bought this package yesterday I am really impressed by the sounds (I fell in love with the new revo Drums). The SFX piano sound is impressive and the mega vocals sound good.

I am aware that it does not sound the same as genos but it certainly allows us to get closer to the quality of the high range.

Many Congratulations KeyboardTips Mexico.

P.S. In a few days I upload audio from the package. :D :D :o :o :o :o :D :D ;)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Simone1972 on December 03, 2018, 08:26:29 AM
I also purchased this package, but I'm very disappointed.
Nevertheless, they seems pretty responsive.
I'm waiting a sort of fix/update after sending the keyboard info file.

Hope it'll work...

Regards
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Simone1972 on December 03, 2018, 10:32:41 PM
Good news,
I got a revised version (in just one day!!) and it really sounds MUCH MUCH better:
drums, vocals and styles are now giving a great boost to the PSR.
I'll take now some time to enjoy the new "toy".....

Regards
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 04, 2018, 04:19:26 AM
"This pack is horrible, the drums has only one 1 velocity layers. It has two badly done megavoices  :( It is a waste of money"

Maybe they did not send you anything for this offensive comment, first you had to communicate coordinately before posting here.

The package in my case was fine, I just needed to update the firmware of my keyboard so that it would work 100%

I am very happy, I recommend them to everyone.

I think 70 dollars is worth it totally.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 04, 2018, 04:20:20 AM
I didn't recive anything  :'(

Maybe they did not send you anything for this offensive comment, first you had to communicate coordinately before posting here.

The package in my case was fine, I just needed to update the firmware of my keyboard so that it would work 100%

I am very happy, I recommend them to everyone.

I think 70 dollars is worth it totally.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Pino on December 04, 2018, 07:26:18 AM
I’m interested.
Where’s the website or how to order ?

Pino
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 05, 2018, 05:03:17 AM
I’m interested.
Where’s the website or how to order ?

Pino


You have to send them an email.

Keyboardtipsmx@gmail.com
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on December 06, 2018, 03:15:49 AM
Here is a short demo of the pack Ghenos (version 2.0), I like the improved Revo Drums and the improved styles, all the styles has now ots. 

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on December 06, 2018, 03:27:53 AM
here is another demo of Ghenos 2.0 using the new Revo Vintage Drums

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Lofty(dave) on December 09, 2018, 09:10:22 PM

Decided to have a look at the vieo mentioned to be told sorry its unavailable and some of the conversions say they may have been moved Lofty (Dave)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on December 10, 2018, 01:43:34 PM
Hi Lofty,
  You can listen to the Demo above just by clicking on it. Must say I was not impressed with it though.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on December 10, 2018, 01:52:40 PM
This video is still available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&t=625s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&t=625s)
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on December 10, 2018, 02:22:33 PM
Hi Lofty,
  You can listen to the Demo above just by clicking on it. Must say I was not impressed with it though.

Maybe because you have the original genos and nothings compares to the original genos with the truly amazing Revo Drums and S.Art2 Voices
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: garymoore on December 13, 2018, 08:04:33 AM
They should provide this update for free for existing customers, as i think previous version was not finished, more a work in progress, and spending same amount twice is not fair for first supporters.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Mendel on December 13, 2018, 03:16:33 PM
@garymoore: existing customers do get a discount for $65 dollars instead of 75
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 13, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
They should provide this update for free for existing customers, as i think previous version was not finished, more a work in progress, and spending same amount twice is not fair for first supporters.

You can check this!

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: panos on December 13, 2018, 08:52:07 PM
Really good discount but isn't it too much for a jpg file?
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on December 14, 2018, 12:24:02 AM
They have not even spelt Genos correctly.  What is a Ghenos it can be anything.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Pino on December 14, 2018, 02:37:34 AM
Eileen

I can’t see the point of knocking this product.
Is it because you compare everything to your Genos.?

Maybe others here do not have a Genos and would welcome
any additional voices or drums,

I would rather give them encouragement.

The more the merrier I say,
it’s just $75.

Pino

Ps ,  Ghenos is probably their own trade mark.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Mendel on December 14, 2018, 03:15:14 AM
Or the general Mexican spelling format of which he thought that’s
The most accurate spelling..
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Henni on December 14, 2018, 07:29:02 AM
This video is still available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&t=625s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYN01V6_0E&t=625s)

Stunning!!! Tx for sharing.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: alka on December 14, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Here is a short demo of the pack Ghenos (version 2.0), I like the improved Revo Drums and the improved styles, all the styles has now ots.

rodrigo.b, please post small midi file with Revo Drums(snare, tom...) from Genos pack.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on December 14, 2018, 04:07:49 PM
rodrigo.b, please post small midi file with Revo Drums(snare, tom...) from Genos pack.

Sorry, I can’t, because that demo was a PSR S970 Factory demo song (With the new revo drums of course), and I can’t find a way to save the midi files of the factory demo songs to a Usb flash drive  :'( I only find a way to save the midi files to the user memory
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: alka on December 14, 2018, 08:07:41 PM
Rodrigo.b, not necessary factory demo song. Please play few notes with selected revo drums for right  hand, and save midi.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 15, 2018, 06:56:52 PM
Rodrigo.b, not necessary factory demo song. Please play few notes with selected revo drums for right  hand, and save midi.

This is a some demos.

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 15, 2018, 06:57:27 PM
DX Demo

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 15, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Hammonic

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 15, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
New Drum kits!

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: rodrigo.b on December 15, 2018, 11:44:47 PM
Rodrigo.b, not necessary factory demo song. Please play few notes with selected revo drums for right  hand, and save midi.

Sorry but i’m a bad fingering drummer :(
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: hans1966 on December 16, 2018, 01:36:50 AM
Hi Guys, I've listened to the demos of these sounds, and I must say that there's nothing surprising in them. the sounds of Harmonica and Violin, sound more real in my S775, respect to the Drum Kit seems good, but not enough to faithfully emulate the Revo Drum of the GENOS. the Piano DX, nothing transcendental. In fact I think that my S775, has excellent Drum Kits, without being a GENOS. on the other hand the GENOS, is the flagship of the keyboards of arrangements, which has the best and most updated sounds and without offending, I do not believe that these sounds are originally from GENOS. the demonstrations of the GENOS, are really spectacular. personally I would NOT buy this package. I am sorry if I offend with my comment, but it is my personal opinion. Greetings. Hans
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Robert Le on December 16, 2018, 05:17:37 AM
Hi Guys, I've listened to the demos of these sounds, and I must say that there's nothing surprising in them. the sounds of Harmonica and Violin, sound more real in my S775, respect to the Drum Kit seems good, but not enough to faithfully emulate the Revo Drum of the GENOS. the Piano DX, nothing transcendental. In fact I think that my S775, has excellent Drum Kits, without being a GENOS. on the other hand the GENOS, is the flagship of the keyboards of arrangements, which has the best and most updated sounds and without offending, I do not believe that these sounds are originally from GENOS. the demonstrations of the GENOS, are really spectacular. personally I would NOT buy this package. I am sorry if I offend with my comment, but it is my personal opinion. Greetings. Hans


Honestly I think that you are a person without criteria and obviously you do not know how to differentiate the sounds, to me personally and like many people this package has surprised us and allows us to have part of the genos in our keyboards.

Better say you do not have money to buy it and that's it.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Pino on December 16, 2018, 05:45:10 AM
Thank you Hans for your opinion.

The sounds and the drums in our keyboards today are already excellent, to make them even better takes a lot of doing and the differences maybe can only be appreciated if listening straight from our keyboards through quality speakers, an mp3 demo maybe not be the best way for evaluation,

I am 90% happy with what I have and spend my time playing and learning rather than hoarding 1’000s of styles and midi’s and splitting hairs as to what sound are better but at the same time I am always interested in anything that is new that can improve what I already have a little further without taking too much of our valuable time.

The problem is that we cannot ‘try before we buy’ so it’s not for everybody.

Pino
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: EileenL on December 16, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
Yes I think this is up to the person buying these packs. I have both Genos and 970 and they are both very good in there own right. OK they are different but that's good and nice to play both but I do realise that my 970 will never be a Genos. If this pack brings a few nice different sounds to the ear then like any other pack buy and enjoy.
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: hans1966 on December 16, 2018, 04:24:13 PM

Honestly I think that you are a person without criteria and obviously you do not know how to differentiate the sounds, to me personally and like many people this package has surprised us and allows us to have part of the genos in our keyboards.

Better say you do not have money to buy it and that's it.


Hello Robert Le, if you remember well, I said it was my opinion, and as far as criteria, it is something very personal, each one has his way of seeing and interpreting life. On the other hand, if I wanted to, I can buy the pack, but I'm not obligated to do so. Greetings. Hans
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: hans1966 on December 16, 2018, 04:32:35 PM
Thank you Hans for your opinion.

The sounds and the drums in our keyboards today are already excellent, to make them even better takes a lot of doing and the differences maybe can only be appreciated if listening straight from our keyboards through quality speakers, an mp3 demo maybe not be the best way for evaluation,

I am 90% happy with what I have and spend my time playing and learning rather than hoarding 1’000s of styles and midi’s and splitting hairs as to what sound are better but at the same time I am always interested in anything that is new that can improve what I already have a little further without taking too much of our valuable time.

The problem is that we cannot ‘try before we buy’ so it’s not for everybody.

Pino


Hi Pino, you have reason. I am very happy with the current keyboard. I went from S770 to S775, and I felt the change, without needing to invest much. I was thinking about the S975, but unfortunately it went up drastically in my country, so the S775 was the best option and I do not regret it. Greetings. Hans
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Simone1972 on December 18, 2018, 06:54:55 PM
I've lost several messages on this topic in the last week, but I spent my
time exploring more in deep this package (the 2.0 version).
These are my - personal - comments:
- The set of new drum kits can replace the revo!Drums out of the box w/o any tweaking:
     This is for me a GREAT feature and expand a lot the sound range of the PSR keyboard
- The two Mega Voices also provide additional compatibility
- There is a bunch of styles taken from Genos that take advantage of these new voices

Just considering how much is the cost for a single style, I think I've made a good investment.
Attached few samples from my S975.

Enjoy

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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Simone1972 on January 04, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
I've spent quite a bit of time during these Christmas holidays gigging
with styles conversion, arrangements, mixing, DSPs etc.
I'd like to share some short demos, hope you will enjoy.

Happy new year to everybody.

Regards


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Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: PSR-USR-IND on March 06, 2019, 11:41:34 AM
Where can I get this pack? "GENOS ON PSR S970
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: ton37 on March 06, 2019, 02:21:28 PM
Hi Onamicus, if you do a google on: ghenos expansion pack keyboardtips, then you wil find the YouTube+mailadress
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: Toril S on March 06, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
They should spell it correctly!
Title: Re: GENOS ON PSR S970 :o
Post by: ton37 on March 06, 2019, 04:13:10 PM
Fyi, because 'Genos' is a protected brand /registered name of Yamaha on 21-10-2016 til 28-06-2026 ;-))

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