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Genos (12 Boards) => Genos - General => Topic started by: frankmusik on December 17, 2017, 07:32:35 PM
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Dear genos Players waiting for the device holder....
Here they are... made in Germany in solid Aluminium Quality...
(http://www.musik-city.de/flyer/genoshalterflyer2500rgb.jpg)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/YAMAHA-Device-Holder-Halter-Universell-fur-YAMAHA-GENOS-Keyboard/192398712408?hash=item2ccbdb5e58:g:qiMAAOSwI8laM-Pb
I think eBay will Translate next days and put them in all eBay platforms..
Greetings from Germany
Frank
Ps: for psr Tutorial Member Order via pm Cheaper :-)
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That's exciting, Frank! Thanks for sharing. I'll think about that in about 2 years when Canada finally gets a decent shipment of Genos keyboards....LOL ;D
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Frank,
can this device hold an iPad Pro 12.9 inches. if so, that is great. I want two of these.
Also, i want the Genos screen protector.
I looked at these two items on your ebay link. Unfortunately, i do not understand German. If there is an option to change the language, i cannot find it for same reason.
Is there an English link and can we buy in USA . . . . ?
thanks in advance.
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Here is is in USA eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-Device-Holder-Holder-Universal-for-yamaha-GENOS-Keyboard/202149225592?hash=item2f11086478:g:qiMAAOSwI8laM-Pb
Gerard
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I use my I pad pro on the music stand as I also occasionally still use sheet music. Genos dose not have those extra holes like Tyros 5 did so to use the device you can also use the music stand.
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There are only 4 such device slots at the back of Genos and Tyros, the middle 2 slots for the music stand, the outer pair of slots are for the Genos / Tyros speakers.
The device holders mentioned in this thread require additional hardware to hold objects like iPad Pro / tablet, external monitor etc - more flexible but definitely a lot costlier than the no-cost Genos music stand.
Thanks,
Paul
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Hi
I reckon Eileen would make a top entepaneur on Dragons Den :o
"Who needs and expensive bit of plastic $46 or £35 approx when you have a music stand that the Ipad would comfortably sit on"!! 8)
Nahh!!!!!! "I'm OUT"!!!! ;D
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Hallo Frank ,
I order this one for my"n screen thanks
Mister Genos
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Hi
I just went down to Wickes and got a flat length of wood with a woodgrain finish and screwed four legs on It and it is used to stand My 21 Inch Music reader HP21 slate on.
Only cost £10 and a little savvy!! "Hey presto"!! ;D
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This device is a great idea. Maybe a bit on the expensive side.
Certainly, more expensive than the no-cost Genos music stand. However, when you need to carry stuff, this smaller device is much easier than the music stand or the mic stand. I would prefer to carry this small device to connect my iPad.
If you do not need to carry around, then probably not needed.
thanks
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Sorry for my delay...
the holder is for small Things like iPad ... some use it also for Mikrophone arm....
A lot of Musician in Europe dont use scoreholder Or speakers... so they have 4 Poss. To use.
Greetings frank
Ps: for cheaper Buying just Send a PM
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Hi al, we tested with iPad Pro also.
Depend on iPad holder it works fine.
Next days I do on eBay with k&m iPad holder and a 3D holder.
First I tried with a bolt (14cm) but was tooooo heavy
Greetings frank
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Frank
thanks a lot for the update.
I am very interested and if it works with iPad Pro 12.9inches in both modes Portrait and Landscape (vertical and horizontal) i will definitely want it. Please let me know when it will be available in eBay with the K&M holder to order.
Have a great day. Greetings
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Hi,
I have a Yamaha L7 stand for my keyboard. On the back supporting brace there is a tapped hole which could be used to hold a bracket for a tablet. Or just use a G-clamp affair on the brace tube. Local diy shop might have something.
Oldden
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Frank ... Hi
Any update on the Device Holder stock? ... Still 2 weeks?
Thx .. Al.
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... some use it also for Mikrophone arm....
Hi Frank,
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nice to see you also on this site, not only in Germany. I do have this item, but I do not dare use it as a microphone boom holder for my very light Behriger condensor.
Do you really think the bushings inside Genos will be sturdy enough not to brake when some "angeheiterter" man grabs the boom in order not to fall. I now have he boom fixed to the keyboard stand, so if anything brakes it is no big issue.
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There was this discussion on the German site as to whether reg files can be transferred or not. You wrote, in case the set up was ok, yes. We now know that those who divided their Tyros hard disk into 4 partitions like recommended on the German site years ago (Robert Mueller) are those who have a problem which seems to be very difficult to solve. Have you encountered and solved that problem in Germany ?
regards
Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland
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Kaarlo ..
Hi. I am about to test one on my Genos. I will use the mounting with a short 125mm extension tube by K&M.
I will use just to hold small device, as I use Shure SM58, which is really too heavy, and leverage is too great
I'm sure the mount will be ok for small device, but NOT heavy, like mics. It would be ok, but if you catch/knock it, damage could be done.
As an Engineer, I looked at the construction of case in the outer mounting area each side. It is very strong here, as it is on a thick section radius corner and load is spread through bracket/2 pins. There may also be metal/rubber bushing inside, but I have not looked.
I will report back when I tried mine!
I am waiting to order from Thomann, as MusikCity is too slow to UK.
Best Wishes ...
Al. 👍😊
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Has anybody tested this device holder with an iPad Pro 12.9 inches in both portrait (vertical) and landscape (horizontal) modes . . . . ?
Currently, i have my iPad Pro 12.9 inches on a mic stand and if this device can hold the larger iPad pro, it would be great to get rid of the mic holder when gigging . . . one less thing to transport . . .
thanks in advance.
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0.7Kg (1.6lbs) .. Will easily hold the weight, but the 'leverage' is the issue.
The pins and holes wont break, that just leaves the case area or the iPad mounting.
Maybe Frank tried!
Al.
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This one Al? ... but Genos version of it? ...
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyros_device_holder_i_pad_set.htm#
Al.
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This one Al? ... but Genos version of it? ...
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_tyros_device_holder_i_pad_set.htm#
Al.
This one would be perfect. I sent an email to vendor asking if they have it for Genos. Hope they respond soon.
thanks
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They are due with Thomann any time now.
I buy my Konig & Meyer (K&M) kit from them now, as Service is good, and fast postage.
Cheers! Al.
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today I got this response from Thomann
"Thank you for your request. The device holder will be available in our onlineshop in a few days. It also will offer the possibility to attach the ipad to your genos. Depending on what kind of iPad you use, you will need a Base Tube"
thanks
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This is the short 'tube' I have. Actually a bar.
It's really the tube for a table mic stand. 130mm x 18mm.
Al.
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Kaarlo ..
will use the mounting with a short 125mm extension tube by K&M.
I use Shure SM58, which is really too heavy, and leverage is too great
I'm sure the mount will be ok for small device, but NOT heavy, like mics. It would be ok, but if you catch/knock it, damage could be done.
As an Engineer, I looked at the construction of case in the outer mounting area each side. It is very strong here, as it is on a thick section radius corner and load is spread through bracket/2 pins. There may also be metal/rubber bushing inside, but I have not looked.
I will report back when I tried mine!
I am waiting to order from Thomann, as MusikCity is too slow to UK.
Best Wishes ...
Al. 👍😊
I very much agree with you. Mic booms that someone can "run into" are going to brake the attachment inside the Genos. I did trial mount a boom and you could feel the attaching point was not sturdy enough. For mounting the Roland V 7 it seems ok.
cheers
Kaarlo
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Hi ..
Yes, you have to be careful when the mounting is in use. It may be possible with iPad to use a 'buffer' as extra support. It's good that the mounting position is on a radius, which makes it quite strong area.
The holder is today in stock at Thomann .de
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm?ref=msg_a_2
Previously, a 'set' has been available for Tyros5 at a cost-saving. This is not available option (yet!)
I'll report back when I have mine.
Al.
🎹😊
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The holder is today in stock at Thomann .de
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm?ref=msg_a_2
Previously, a 'set' has been available for Tyros5 at a cost-saving. This is not available option (yet!)
I'll report back when I have mine.
Al.
🎹😊
Thanks so much for the notice. I am planning on ordering this one. Except that i still need to figure out what else i need in addition to this little device.
My understanding is that this device will go into the Genos holes. My concern is that i have the largest iPad Pro 12.9. It seems to me that to have this large ipad in portrait (vertical) and landscape (horizontal) mode, there should be sufficient space and probably need the additional tube.
I already have this iPad holder
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1266135-REG/auray_ipu_105_universal_large_tablet.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1266135-REG/auray_ipu_105_universal_large_tablet.html)
So, not sure if i can use this one or need to buy a special one . . .
Need to figure out the set that will work out . . . . they should offer one set already including everything . . . .
Maybe i will write them again.
have a great day.
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Hi Al!
I'll talk to you later about this!
Al.
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This is the short 'tube' I have. Actually a bar.
It's really the tube for a table mic stand. 130mm x 18mm.
Al.
I am trying to determine the thread measurements on this short tube . . . . the thread that will connect to the actual iPad holder.
https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_7232000155.htm (https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_7232000155.htm)
Is it a male 3/8 or 5/8 ?
I currently have an iPad holder that is a female 5/8. If the tube is 3/8 i will probably need an additional adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.
thanks in advance.
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I am trying to determine the thread measurements on this short tube . . . . the thread that will connect to the actual iPad holder.
https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_7232000155.htm (https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_7232000155.htm)
Is it a male 3/8 or 5/8 ?
I currently have an iPad holder that is a female 5/8. If the tube is 3/8 i will probably need an additional adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.
thanks in advance.
It is compatible with K&M 232... and on this page they say this is 3/8
https://m.thomann.de/gb/km_232bk.htm?o=0&search=1519669727
Regards, Vali
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Vali
thanks a lot for your prompt response.
I believe that you are 100% right. Althought the tube included in the K&M 232 that you mentioned has a length of 175mm and the tube i was looking at has a lenght of 130mm but the thread should be the same at 3/8. That means i would need an adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.
This is what i am considering ordering to adapt an iPad Pro 12.9 inches to the Genos. I currently have the iPad on a microphone stand but want to place the iPad on Genos. That would eliminate the need to carry an additional microphone stand.
I currently have this iPad holder which as a 5/8 female thread.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333976-REG/auray_ipu_108_universal_tablet_holder.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333976-REG/auray_ipu_108_universal_tablet_holder.html)
To place the iPad directly on the Genos, It looks like i would need to buy the following:
1. Genos Device holder
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm (https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm)
2. Short tube
https://m.thomann.de/intl/km_7232000155.htm?i11l=en_GB%3AUS.EUR%3AUSD (https://m.thomann.de/intl/km_7232000155.htm?i11l=en_GB%3AUS.EUR%3AUSD)
3. 3/8 to 5/8 adapter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Male-to-3-8-Female-Microphone-Mic-Stand-Adapter-Thread-Screw-W5T6-/222638277743 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Male-to-3-8-Female-Microphone-Mic-Stand-Adapter-Thread-Screw-W5T6-/222638277743)
Thanks again. Have a great day.
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Vali
thanks a lot for your prompt response.
I believe that you are 100% right. Althought the tube included in the K&M 232 that you mentioned has a length of 175mm and the tube i was looking at has a lenght of 130mm but the thread should be the same at 3/8. That means i would need an adapter from 3/8 to 5/8.
This is what i am considering ordering to adapt an iPad Pro 12.9 inches to the Genos. I currently have the iPad on a microphone stand but want to place the iPad on Genos. That would eliminate the need to carry an additional microphone stand.
I currently have this iPad holder which as a 5/8 female thread.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333976-REG/auray_ipu_108_universal_tablet_holder.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333976-REG/auray_ipu_108_universal_tablet_holder.html)
To place the iPad directly on the Genos, It looks like i would need to buy the following:
1. Genos Device holder
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm (https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm)
2. Short tube
https://m.thomann.de/intl/km_7232000155.htm?i11l=en_GB%3AUS.EUR%3AUSD (https://m.thomann.de/intl/km_7232000155.htm?i11l=en_GB%3AUS.EUR%3AUSD)
3. 3/8 to 5/8 adapter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Male-to-3-8-Female-Microphone-Mic-Stand-Adapter-Thread-Screw-W5T6-/222638277743 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-Male-to-3-8-Female-Microphone-Mic-Stand-Adapter-Thread-Screw-W5T6-/222638277743)
Thanks again. Have a great day.
Hi
I have this mic holder from Shure...
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/23jkdwn.jpg)
I think it is the same thread screw that you want! you don't have one? Or you already use it?
What I want to say is now all mic holders come with this little thread screw! ::)
Regards,
Vali
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Vali
Great idea !!! I have a couple of Shure mics and the mic holders that came with it. Tonight (it is 2pm here) I will check to see if they came with the adapters.
thanks again.
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Vali
Great idea !!! I have a couple of Shure mics and the mic holders that came with it. Tonight (it is 2pm here) I will check to see if they came with the adapters.
thanks again.
Great! :)
(Here is 00:25) :D No far away :)))
Regards,
Vali
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Dear genos Players waiting for the device holder....
Here they are... made in Germany in solid Aluminium Quality...
(http://www.musik-city.de/flyer/genoshalterflyer2500rgb.jpg)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/YAMAHA-Device-Holder-Halter-Universell-fur-YAMAHA-GENOS-Keyboard/192398712408?hash=item2ccbdb5e58:g:qiMAAOSwI8laM-Pb
I think eBay will Translate next days and put them in all eBay platforms..
Greetings from Germany
Frank
Ps: for psr Tutorial Member Order via pm Cheaper :-)
Frank
So, is this already available to purchase in USA . . . ? the last updates indicated 2 weeks.
Also, has it been tested with iPad Pro 12.9 inches both in portrait and landscape modes . . . . ?
I believe there is also an additional 'joint' piece'
Really want to buy it . . . .
thanks
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Where does the battery go??? ;D
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Hi ..
Yes, you have to be careful when the mounting is in use. It may be possible with iPad to use a 'buffer' as extra support. It's good that the mounting position is on a radius, which makes it quite strong area.
The holder is today in stock at Thomann .de
https://m.thomann.de/gb/millenium_genos_device_holder.htm?ref=msg_a_2
Previously, a 'set' has been available for Tyros5 at a cost-saving. This is not available option (yet!)
I'll report back when I have mine.
Al.
🎹😊
Its no longer available at Thomann, altough there are alternatives
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I don't recommend this holder. It scratched my Genos (not so visible, but it did it :( ) even if it has a thin sponge glued on it.
I use now on my K&M Spider Pro (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_18860_spider_pro_silber.htm) keyboard stand (for at least 10 years), this K&M Universal Holder (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_18873_universal_holder.htm) and this adjustable tablet holder (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_19790_tablet_stand_holder.htm), also from K&M
Universal Holder it has a very powerfull strength on Spider stand, and the tablet does not make "motions" ...
(https://www.storedj.com.au/Images/ProductImages/KM-19790_2.jpg)
(https://static.keymusic.com/products/139538/XL/konig-meyer-18875-ipad-holder-for-spider-pro-3.jpg)
Regards,
Vali
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Greets Val!
I also have used a K&M Spider Pro in silver ... Best and strongest stand out there by FAR ... alsoroom underneath for 3-4 pedals!
I use the K&M accessories wherever possible, which fit on the stand.
Brilliant accessories ... really strong.
Al.
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I don't recommend this holder. It scratched my Genos (not so visible, but it did it :( ) even if it has a thin sponge glued on it.
I use now on my K&M Spider Pro (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_18860_spider_pro_silber.htm) keyboard stand (for at least 10 years), this K&M Universal Holder (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_18873_universal_holder.htm) and this adjustable tablet holder (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_19790_tablet_stand_holder.htm), also from K&M
Universal Holder it has a very powerfull strength on Spider stand, and the tablet does not make "motions" ...
Regards,
Vali
I own the universal k&m tablet holder..
And a K&m double table stand.
But with `genos’ in the upper position,
And modx 8 in the lower
It doesn’t fit
The genos is to deep, and the tablet holder cant connect
with that depth to the tablestand
I was hoping this would allow me to connect my universal table stand
Directly to the genos...
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I don't recommend this holder. It scratched my Genos (not so visible, but it did it :( ) even if it has a thin sponge glued on it.
I use now on my K&M Spider Pro (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_18860_spider_pro_silber.htm) keyboard stand (for at least 10 years), this K&M Universal Holder (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_18873_universal_holder.htm) and this adjustable tablet holder (https://www.thomann.de/intl/km_19790_tablet_stand_holder.htm), also from K&M
Universal Holder it has a very powerfull strength on Spider stand, and the tablet does not make "motions" ...
(https://www.storedj.com.au/Images/ProductImages/KM-19790_2.jpg)
(https://static.keymusic.com/products/139538/XL/konig-meyer-18875-ipad-holder-for-spider-pro-3.jpg)
Regards,
Vali
Vali
when you have a chance, can you please send another picture to include the Genos keyboard and the iPad . . . just to see how everything fits together . . . the Genos, the stand and the iPad, also do you use a microphone for singing ? if so, how do you mount it . . .
thanks in advance.
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I mount my extendable boom mic holder (K&M) on the Genos device holder Thomann sells (or Frank)
Fits/works well, and pretty solid.
I use Genos on the Spider Pro lower arms, top are free, and folded. I use the music stand.
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Vali
when you have a chance, can you please send another picture to include the Genos keyboard and the iPad . . . just to see how everything fits together . . . the Genos, the stand and the iPad, also do you use a microphone for singing ? if so, how do you mount it . . .
thanks in advance.
Hi Al.
This one (http://oi65.tinypic.com/2eexac5.jpg) (and this one (http://oi67.tinypic.com/2lld2qx.jpg), not so clear) are the only pictures I have with all mounted. I used my Android tablet only to connect to my Behringer X32 Compact mixer. Right now, I don't use anymore my X32, because I want to sell it to buy something else :) We have a sound team now, the sound system is much bigger (http://oi67.tinypic.com/11mghz4.jpg), for big events (300-500 people).
Spider has also the connector for microphone stand.
(https://d12f2i5zyb989l.cloudfront.net/media/images/product/cache/2b55a12c67ca99d146552a75a61bb0ed-productpage_super.jpg)
(https://www.thomann.de/pics/bdb/174203/11268543_800.jpg)
Regards,
Vali
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Looks painful!! :o :P
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Vali
when you have a chance, can you please send another picture to include the Genos keyboard and the iPad . . . just to see how everything fits together . . . the Genos, the stand and the iPad, also do you use a microphone for singing ? if so, how do you mount it . . .
thanks in advance.
This might be useful to you. The left is a tablet for my mixer (Behringer XR12) but you can put the Ipad. This stand is home made. The right is the text screen on a flat microphone stand.
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Vali and Ckobu
Great pictures. Your setup looks great, very neat, very orderly.
I wonder if the tablet holder can hold an iPad Pro 12.9 inches in portrait mode . . . due to the distances between the stand, the holder and the keyboard . . .
thanks again.
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Hey.
Does anyone use the K&M Baby Spider 18840 together with the Tablet holder K & m 19791 for the iPad Pro 12.9 inch?
is there room enough for that ipad?
Can the carrying arms tilt slightly downwards to have a better overview of the Genos? see picture
(http://)
I would have liked to hear this.
Thank you.
this is a Google translation.
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