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Offline Seagull29

The ideal arranger
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:15:26 PM »
Hi,
Just a simple question:

For you, what should the ideal arranger do? (functions, editing etc....)    8)
 

Offline Toril S

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 01:29:07 PM »
Hello :) I would like screens that could be adjusted so that you could get much bigger letters in menus like Music Finder! More contrast on the buttons, and away with those horrible "rubber" buttons. The ability to make MP3s, not only Wav with the audio recorder. Tiltable screen on the smaller keyboards also, not only Tyros/Genos.
Toril S

PSR S970, PSR 2100 and PSR-47.
 

Offline Seagull29

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 01:35:13 PM »
On Genos, screen is not tiltable and some regret it.
 

Offline Oldden

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 02:50:11 PM »
Hi,
Not long now until NAMM 2018, Yamaha have picked out a big area just behind the hotel. I know, it's unlikely to be a new keyboard, but you never know.
Oldden
 

Offline travlin-easy

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 04:16:23 PM »
Having been on stage for more than 30 years, I assure you there is no such thing as an ideal arranger - it does not exist, at least yet. They all have some positive attributes and some negatives, especially when on stage. The screen visibility has improved dramatically over the past decade, and I can easily see my PSR-S950 under nearly all indoor situations, and some outdoor conditions. No need to have a tilt screen if it is viewable from all directions, which the S-950, S-970 and Genos are because of supertwist technology.

Since the advent of the PSR-2000, you can pretty much edit anything that needs editing, but for the most part, Yamaha has already done most of if for you, especially when it comes to realistic sounds for right hand voices. You would be hard pressed to make them any better than they are right out of the box. I should know - I've tried it many times.

Yamaha has made great strides in their music finder directory with their S series of keyboards, and the songlist on the Genos. For onstage work, this would be difficult to beat. I used my MFD extensively on stage and loved how easy it was to use and how fast I could transition between songs, often in times of less than one second. There are not many keyboards out there that can do this.

As for acquisition speed for file loading, the Genos and S series are lightning fast, which is a huge asset for onstage performances. When someone requests a song, I could usually get to it in less than 3 seconds and began playing the song as they walked back toward their table. Loved it!

So, what exactly do you need? Be very specific as to how it would be beneficial to you and others, and I will do my best to determine if there is already a feature that would easily accomplish that goal. If not, write a letter to Yamaha's product development team in California and maybe they can come up with a software solution or update that will take care of your needs.

Hope this helps,

Gary 8)
Love Those Yammies...
 

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #5 on: Today at 04:15:40 PM »
Hi,
Just a simple question:

For you, what should the ideal arranger do? (functions, editing etc....)    8)

Should be capable of arranging music! Simple! but no manufacturer will ever create one. If you take a look at any flagship arranger keyboard, you will realize that you can never create and arrange a piece of music professionally on any of them.

For voice creation, you need a synthesizer not an arranger. The ecosystem is intentionally implemented ill-conditioned so that you buy a new keyboard every year.
Yamaha MOTIF XF, Casio PX-150, Yamaha WX5, Yamaha Pacifica 112v
 

Offline mikf

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #6 on: Today at 04:36:52 PM »
Not so simple - the term 'arranger keyboard' has been adopted to describe portable keyboards with advanced onboard accompaniment, not because they were meant to arrange music. Maybe the term is misleading, but that is nonetheless the case.
Mike
 

Offline travlin-easy

Re: The ideal arranger
« Reply #7 on: Today at 04:38:00 PM »
I never thought a keyboard arranged anything. Instead, the person using the keyboard does the arranging and composing using the tools at his or her disposal. As for the voices, there are thousands to select from, all of which can be modified to fit any need. No need to create new ones, IMO. I would be hard pressed to find a synth created voice that sounds as realistic as any I have heard from the TOTL keyboards available today. I guess if someone wanted to sit down at a synth or PC and create his or her own special voice, one never available in the past, and something that has resemblance to a real instrument, well have fun. Most folks could care less about this when it comes to playing or creating an arrangement on their arranger keyboard.

All the best,

Gary 8)
Love Those Yammies...