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Offline valimaties

Style Creator SFF Edit
« on: October 24, 2017, 12:47:19 AM »
Ok. Because is Style section, I think Style Creator will be in the right place here!

I want to ask (an owner) if in SFF Edit which CC can be inserted?! I want to know if is like Tyros series limitation, or they changed the approach and give as the liberty to insert which Control Change do we want.
So, please, someone, give us a picture or a video with SFF Edit page of a new style, on an instrument channel (not RHY, but anything else) with filter on Control Change, and show us if they hard coded the Control Change values or is as free!

Thanks!
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Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 02:59:09 AM »
As Reference Manual said, Style Creator is 95% Tyros's 5 Style Creator.
The only new feature is Drum Setup, from PSR-S970.
Uhhhh :'(

PS: So the news that they told us HERE is FAKE !!!

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Miles of Styles and Robust Recording

Yamaha accompaniment Styles have always led the industry in realism, conducting a real-time backing band that follows players' chord changes and musical choices. Genos' cornucopia of new sound content makes its 550 Styles better than ever, across all musical genres from pop to jazz to classical to rock to hip-hop to EDM to regional and world flavors and beyond.

Though the Styles are incredibly diverse and each has many selectable variations, intros, fills, and endings, musicians who want utterly original accompaniment can craft their own Styles in the Style Creator either by editing factory Styles or from scratch, thanks to the full-featured 16-track MIDI recorder that resides under the hood.
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Offline voodoo

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2017, 01:23:40 PM »
There is a 16 track midi recorder. This is true. But this has nothing to do with the style editor. And they do not promise 16 channel style edit. So what is the connection?
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Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2017, 01:35:05 PM »
There is a 16 track midi recorder. This is true. But this has nothing to do with the style editor. And they do not promise 16 channel style edit. So what is the connection?

Please read entire phrase...
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Offline voodoo

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2017, 01:40:29 PM »
Please read entire phrase...

Yeah I try to.  ???

But I don't understand how one should create styles using the midi recorder.....
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Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2017, 01:50:52 PM »
Styles are made by MIDI events, we all know that. And read the phrase
"editing factory Styles thanks to the full-featured 16-track MIDI recorder".what do you understand?! Edit styles thanks to fill-featured 16 track... The words are words... but phisicaly, on the keyboard I 've still see only 8. For me, that's a lie. Full stop.
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Offline ckobu

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 02:53:28 PM »
Style essentially has 16 midi channels. On keyboard we can see 9 RHY1, 10 RHY2, 11 BAS, 12 CHD1, 13 CHD2 ...
But from 1 to 8 channels we can locate any tracks and assign chord switching via CASM. So, we have 16 midi channels available to create one style.
Unfortunately, in the keyboard we can only create and see them 8.

This video shows a 1-channel rate control input.

https://youtu.be/a0swPrVkayE
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Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2017, 12:26:41 AM »
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Unfortunately, in the keyboard we can only create and see them 8.
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The big problem of only 8 Channels (not tracks) in style creator is that if you assign more than one channel to a style part (RHY,CHD,PAD,etc) and separate them by CASM settings, then in keyboard you cannot do anything to those style parts. Any modification you'll have to make it in PC Software, because if you try to REC on a style part which have more than one channel assigned, the style creator must delete all those channels.
That I'll prefer make it in my keyboard, and not on PC Software.
It will be simple if they'll insert CASM page in Style Creator, and instead of 8 Channels, to show the first 8 channels empty and the existing 9-16 channels, and to have the possibility assign CASM to each of those empty channels (like in StyleMagicYA)
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Offline ckobu

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2017, 12:43:40 AM »
I agree with you but it has always been a yamahin style concept.
Those who do not want to adjust to this concept can play Korg, Roland or vArranger software.
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Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 12:50:46 AM »
I agree with you but it has always been a yamahin style concept.
Those who do not want to adjust to this concept can play Korg, Roland or vArranger software.

We are in 2017, come on  ;D ;D ;D They can upgrade this, I don't think they can't, I think they won't!
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Vali Matieş - Genos
 

Offline ckobu

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 02:34:26 PM »
That's fine but yamaha has something new to sell in 2020  ;)

Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2017, 05:32:07 AM »
That's fine but yamaha has something new to sell in 2020  ;)

That's why Korg has much more PA4X sold than Genos will be...
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Offline EileenL

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 04:31:20 AM »
Well we will see won't we. Yamaha sell an awful lot of keyboards and I think Genos will do very well.

Offline valimaties

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2017, 05:49:18 AM »
Note from Reference manual!

Editing of Audio Styles is not available on firmware version 1.10 or before. It will be available in a future version upgrade.

So, there will be upgrades on Style Creator on Genos?! Hmmm... that's seems to be good news!  ;) :D
I hope not only on Audio Styles :D
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Offline voodoo

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2017, 06:05:19 AM »
There will be upgrades. This is good news at all.
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Offline pjd

Re: Style Creator SFF Edit
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2017, 06:15:57 AM »
Very interesting! Thanks, Vali.

Seems like Yamaha have a roadmap for new features. Good news.

-- pj